PMDG NGX in v5

[PilotPete99 915]

I see that some folks have the NGXu working in P3d v5, does anyone have the original NGX installed any working? My understanding is this will not be converted for v5.

Cheers, Pete

[pete_auau 1,152]

2 hours ago, PilotPete99 said:

I see that some folks have the NGXu working in P3d v5, does anyone have the original NGX installed any working? My understanding is this will not be converted for v5.

Cheers, Pete

where  did  you  see  that  that  they  were  not  converting  it  to v5?  if  you would have  gone  to the proper  forum  you  will see  the changes

https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-forum/general-discussion-news-and-announcements/56656-14apr20-moving-to-prepar3d-v5-read-this

Edited April 24, 2020 by pete_auau

[snapshot21 254]

1 minute ago, pete_auau said:

where  did  you  see  that  that  they  were  not  converting  it  to v5?

PMDG Forums. Confirmed time and time again. New updates are only for the NGXu now and not for the old NGX.

[Quasimodo 505]

I could be the simplest thing in the world and they still won't do it. Otherwise why would you buy it again. To be fair there is the support too.

[PilotPete99 915]

21 minutes ago, pete_auau said:

where  did  you  see  that  that  they  were  not  converting  it  to v5?  if  you would have  gone  to the proper  forum  you  will see  the changes

https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-forum/general-discussion-news-and-announcements/56656-14apr20-moving-to-prepar3d-v5-read-this

I’ve been there, I’m not seeing this applies to the Original 737 NGX. It only mentions the NGXu. This of course doesn’t surprise me given how PMDG does business.

Cheers, Pete

[OzWhitey 3,353]

PMDG directly answered this question. No installer will be happening for the NGX. Simple, a bit sad, and already much discussed.

NGXu works great in v5, but i’m afraid i haven’t tested thr NGX yet.

[PilotPete99 915]

This really is ridiculous. I just bought the NGX less than year ago. Now I am expected to buy this again if I want to use it in v5. These guys take whatever they can get. And I know I will get piled on by the folks who think PMDG can do know wrong but give me a break here. 
 

Cheers, Pete

[JamesIL 16]

I have. Followed directions in another thread. Named v5 to v4 then installed and ran ops center then I renamed back to v5. Everything seems fine except weather radar.

[PilotPete99 915]

Interesting, I am not sure if it will work though since I have v4.5 installed on the same computer.

Cheers, Pete

[CaptainNick 575]

Is it fair to expect/demand a developer to port an old product over to a new version of a sim? Or to throw a fit if they don’t? At no time was the NGX ever advertised as being forward compatible to later full version P3D releases. 
Before someone harps on me for being a Cheerleader, I literally did not purchase any of their planes in P3D but I do have their full fs9 and fsx lineup. Frankly I would rather them devote time to bringing the JS41 back or the MD11 than to port the old NGX over.

Edited April 24, 2020 by CaptainNick

[Mroberts95 136]

2 minutes ago, CaptainNick said:

Is it fair to expect/demand a developer to port an old product over to a new version of a sim? Or to throw a fit if they don’t? At no time was the NGX ever advertised as being forward compatible to later full version P3D releases. 
Before someone harps on me for being a Cheerleader, I literally did not purchase any of their planes in P3D but I do have their full fs9 and fsx lineup. Frankly I would rather them devote time to bringing the JS41 back or the MD11 than to port the old NGX over.

Agreed, now a days devs are dammed if they do, damned if they don’t. There’s also a good possibility PMDG didn’t know their plans for V5 a year ago let alone if it was coming.

There is a reason why addons do not get ported and no longer supported. The ngx is many years old at this point a port from FSX. I don’t want them to spend many hours to update the code to DX12. It’s not as simple as making a new installer otherwise they would all be out by now. It’s more complicated than that and that’s what’s frustrating people don’t understand.

[PilotPete99 915]

4 minutes ago, CaptainNick said:

Is it fair to expect/demand a developer to port an old product over to a new version of a sim? Or to throw a fit if they don’t? At no time was the NGX ever advertised as being forward compatible to later full version P3D releases. 
Before someone harps on me for being a Cheerleader, I literally did not purchase any of their planes in P3D but I do have their full fs9 and fsx lineup. Frankly I would rather them devote time to bringing the JS41 back or the MD11 than to port the old NGX over.

Bottom line is you get nothing for being loyal to this company. It has nothing to do with fair or unfair. And who is throwing a fit? When did it become a crime to compare one company to another. The vast majority of developers in this community offer at minimum a discount for owners of previous renditions of their products. PMDG has never done this, and that is a fact. No matter how much you spend on their products you build absolutely no goodwill with this company. I have no idea how much time would be taken to port the old NGX, but it is irrelevant to me because it has always been the same story with these guys. Step up and reward loyalty. This is my opinion and I think it is a valid one.

Cheers, Pete

 

 

[Mroberts95 136]

4 minutes ago, PilotPete99 said:

Bottom line is you get nothing for being loyal to this company. It has nothing to do with fair or unfair. And who is throwing a fit? When did it become a crime to compare one company to another. The vast majority of developers in this community offer at minimum a discount for owners of previous renditions of their products. PMDG has never done this, and that is a fact. No matter how much you spend on their products you build absolutely no goodwill with this company. I have no idea how much time would be taken to port the old NGX, but it is irrelevant to me because it has always been the same story with these guys. Step up and reward loyalty. This is my opinion and I think it is a valid one.

Cheers, Pete

 

 

 

That's the problem with the community. Everybody feels they are "owed" something from devs one way or another.

Guess what, You're not. You buy a product that works for the current sim and hopefully they give you updates.

They're rewarding loyalty by offering you free updates from V3 all the way thru V5. Would you rather them go back and charge for those as well?

I am sure they would be happy to if you send them in a ticket.

Edited April 24, 2020 by akabam

[PilotPete99 915]

1 minute ago, akabam said:

 

That's the problem with the community. Everybody feels they are "owed" something from devs one way or another.

Guess what, You're not. You buy a product that works for the current sim and hopefully they give you updates.

They're rewarding loyalty by offering you free updates from V3 all the way thru V5. Would you rather them go back and charge for those as well?

I am sure they would be happy to if you send them in a ticket.

Why is that whenever someone has something to say about the sacred PMDG, the first thing you hear is “nothing is owed to you.” I said nothing about anything being owed to me. If these guys turn around and charge $300 for the next plane the same people will jump all over it. I am a CPA and I also have a degree in economics. I know a little bit about how business works. I have an opinion and I am allowed to have that opinion. You have the same right to have your opinion, but please don’t put words in my mouth. I knew this was coming when I initiated my first post so I am not surprised.

Cheers, Pete

[Mroberts95 136]

5 minutes ago, PilotPete99 said:

Why is that whenever someone has something to say about the sacred PMDG, the first thing you hear is “nothing is owed to you.” I said nothing about anything being owed to me. If these guys turn around and charge $300 for the next plane the same people will jump all over it. I am a CPA and I also have a degree in economics. I know a little bit about how business works. I have an opinion and I am allowed to have that opinion. You have the same right to have your opinion, but please don’t put words in my mouth. I knew this was coming when I initiated my first post so I am not surprised.

Cheers, Pete

I cant say anything nice. Ill be quiet

Edited April 24, 2020 by akabam