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PSXT 17.5 and P3d V5 "no add msg rcvd"

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Reposting as new thread:

Using V5 and PSXT 17.5 64-bit and  I've been getting these types of errors in the log

AAL1331  N147AA   DFW ->DFW  A321 stream size: 10, no add msg rcvd from SimConnect ?!, will be removed
ANA5     JA732A   LAX ->NRT  B77W stream size: 10, no add msg rcvd from SimConnect ?!, will be removed
ANZ2     ZK-NZN   AKL ->LHR  B789 stream size: 10, no add msg rcvd from SimConnect ?!, will be removed
ASA278   N843VA   LAX ->SJD  A320 stream size: 10, no add msg rcvd from SimConnect ?!, will be removed
DAL1543  N821DX   MSP ->LAX  B752 stream size: 10, no add msg rcvd from SimConnect ?!, will be removed
N100TL   N100TL              C208 stream size: 10, no add msg rcvd from SimConnect ?!, will be removed

and seeing multiple duplicate planes.

PSXT 17.1 does not give me these errors and works normally, I know this is new since 17.4....

Also do not get these errors with P3D V4 with 17.5, only since v5. For now I have to stick to 17.1

Anyone else? or just me? Is it due to input data stream specifications? or purely to do with messages back form P3D?

Thanks!

Edited by kiek

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"no add msg rcvd from SimConnect"

This message is logged if PSXT tries to create a livery in P3D via a SimConnect  call but it does not receive a message back from Simconnect that it has been succesful or a message from SimConnect that the livery could not be created.

PSXT waits 10 times 9 seconds before it comes to this conclusion. So it looks like an issue in your Simconnect server in P3D or something with the livery?.  A few months ago there was another user reporting this, don't know which thread.

"and seeing multiple duplicate planes"

That looks like another issue, but what do you mean? Duplicate live aircraft, or ?

Edited by kiek

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Yeah for live traffic, you get multiple instances (2, rarely 3) copies in the AI Traffic list.

I assume that up to 17.1 works fine that the liveries are OK. Checking the PSXT log there are no liveries unable to  be created.

Will keep searching

Thanks

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Tested in both P3d V4.5 and V5 Hotfix 2, PSXT17.5 give me the same messages in both. 

Each aircraft that is duplicated is one that is reported in the log as "will be removed", so maybe the removal process is instead causing another copy to be created somehow? Is it possible to make this new check an option? I think the Simconnect add message from p3d might be too unreliable as all the aircraft seem to be correctly created initially.

Also if I quit and restart PSXT right away so we are looking at the same traffic, different aircraft get the errors the next time, so I don't think it's livery related.

 

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It is not a new check, it has always been there...

Let see first if other users have this problem too. 

Please post a complete log.txt here.

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Two code boxes below contain logs from 17.1 and 17.5 for the same traffic data within minutes of each other. Same simulator session, in Prepar3D 4.5

17.1 first, 17.5 second

Thank you for taking the time!

 

 

Mon May  4 08:00:47 2020 (utc) PSXT (64 bit) version 17.1 for Prepar3D v4.5

***************************** parameters *****************************
RANDOM=true
NON_REAL_REMOVAL_THRESHOLD=5
MAIN_WINDOW_X=1947
MAIN_WINDOW_Y=511
PARK_GROUNDSPEED=20
VERSION_CHECKED_AT=May  4, 2020
PROGRAM_VERSION=17.5
INSTALL_PATH=C:\Lockheed Martin\PSXseeconTraffic_v5.42
ALWAYS_ON_TOP=false
SYNC_FPS=false
HEAVY_MIDDLE_AIRCRAFT=true
LIGHT_AIRCRAFT=true
HELICOPTERS=true
INCLUDE_NOTYPES=false
LOG_MATCHING=true
ADD_ORIG_DEST=true
AUTO_MODE=false
LIVE_IF_USER_AIRBORNE=false
COLLISION_LIVE_PARKED_GND=false
COLLISION_USER_GND=false
UPS=20
FLOOR_ALTITUDE=-1000
LATERAL_RANGE=100
BLOCK_CALLSIGN=
LIVERIES_FOLDER=C:\Lockheed Martin\AILGenerator\liveries
AIRPORTS_FOLDER=C:\Lockheed Martin\ParkPosGenerator\airports
FLIGHTPLANSFOLDER=
**********************************************************************

PROGRAM_VERSION=17.1
Reading airport's data from "C:\Lockheed Martin\ParkPosGenerator\airports"
Reading airport's data from "parked_updates"
35 airports found
82 aircraft heights read from "C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\PSXseeconTraffic\avg_heights.txt"
Waiting for data provider to connect to PSXT ...
Waiting for Flight Simulator ...
Lockheed Martin Prepar3D v4 connected
Data provider connected

Aircraft type information read from "data\types.xml"
author: PSXseeconTraffic, version: 12.11, date: Dec  1, 2018

Wingspan information read from "data\wingspan.xml"
author: PSXseeconTraffic, version: 13.0, date: Dec  1, 2018


*************************************** liveries summary ***************************************
2426 liveries read from file "C:\Lockheed Martin\AILGenerator\liveries\AI_liveries.xml", of which 30 specials
author: AILGenerator, version: 5.0, date: Mon May  4

8062 registration codes found in the liveries of the user
generic Boeing liveries for 53 types: AN24 AS50 B190 B38M B39M B733 B734 B736 B737 B738 B739 
   B741 B744 B748 B74S B762 B763 B764 B772 B773 B77L B77W B788 B789 B78X BE20 BE36 BE9L C152 
   C17 C172 C182 C206 C208 C402 C421 C56X C750 C82R CL30 CL35 CRJ9 DC87 DH8B DH8C DH8D PA46 
   PC12 S76 SHIP SR22 SW4 U21 
generic Airbus liveries for 17 types: A20N A21N A30B A318 A319 A320 A332 A339 A342 A343 A345 
   A346 A359 A35K A388 B737 B738 
no generic Embraer liveries
generic Bombardier liveries for 3 types: BCS1 BCS3 CRJX 
no generic ATR liveries
no generic Private liveries
269 unique airlines, 94 unique aircraft types
Default livery set for aircraft category Heavy, type A333, # liveries: 92
Default livery set for aircraft category Middle, type B738, # liveries: 418
Default livery set for aircraft category Light, type C208, # liveries: 5
Default livery set for aircraft category Heli, type AS50, # liveries: 1
************************************************************************************************

22946 registration codes added from "data\regcodes.xml"
author: AILGenerator, version: 5.1, date: Sep 14, 2019

User aircraft title: AiTrackerX Observer
User aircraft model: camerapod
Connecting QNHReader to UDP port 49004 ...
QNHReader connected
Connecting TrafficReader to UDP port 49003 ...
TrafficReader connected
QNH=1013
User on the ground at airport KLAX, standing still
The parking airport is: KLAX (LAX)

Out of business information read from "data\outofbusiness.xml"
author: Nico, version: 2.0, date: Oct 1, 2019


Parkpos file "parked_updates\KLAX.xml" for Los Angeles Intl
author: ParkPosGenerator, version: 14.0, date: Dec  2, 2019

    supplier: FS Dreamteam
    179 parking positions, of which
    144 real live parking positions (80%), with 
    536 real live options, and 
    2072 defined hours
    last update May  4, 2020

No aircraft to be parked
ANZ6081  ZK-NZR   AKL ->DRW  B789 === FSPXAI B787-9 Dreamliner New Zealand ZE AI
ATN3414  N419AZ              B763 === ABX Air Boeing 767-338(ERF) N364CM
GTI3707  N1361A   ONT ->MIA  B763 =r= AIA Boeing 767-300BDSF GTI Amazon Prime Air
N171WC   N171WC              R44  =X= MAIW_EAI_S76A_TTAG_SAUTT-001
N223LA   N223LA              AS50 =g= Eurocopter AS-350 Test
N29LB    N29LB               AS50 =g= Eurocopter AS-350 Test
N520PD   N520PD              MD52 =d= Eurocopter AS-350 Test
N523HB   N523HB              MD52 =d= Eurocopter AS-350 Test
UAL1511  N460UA   LIR ->IAH  A320 =r= FAIB Airbus A320-200 IAE United
AAL2289  N907AA   MIA ->LAX  A321 =r= FAIB Airbus A321-200 SL IAE American Airlines
AAL772   N163US   PHL ->LAX  A321 =r= FAIB Airbus A321-200 CFM American Airlines (ex US Airways)
CPA086   B-LJK    HKG ->HKG  B748 =r= Cathay Pacific Cargo Boeing 747-8F OC
UAL1057  N494UA   ORD ->PHX  A320 =r= FAIB Airbus A320-200 IAE United
Exiting: USER CLOSED SIM
08:02:16 User closed PSXseeconTraffic
QNH Reader has stopped
Traffic Reader has stopped
08:02:16 "parked_updates\KLAX.xml" saved and sorted

*************************************** live traffic livery matching summary ***************************************
Mon May  4 08:02:17 2020 (utc)
13 liveries needed
84% (11) were completely matched, of which 54% (6) upon registration code (r)
 =g= 2 generic liveries generated for unknown airlines
 =X= 1 random livery for similar type
 =d= 2 default liveries generated
********************************************************************************************************************

MAIN_WINDOW_X=1947
MAIN_WINDOW_Y=511
Mon May  4 08:02:17 2020
Mon May  4 07:57:51 2020 (utc) PSXT (64 bit) version 17.5 for Prepar3D v4.5

***************************** parameters *****************************
ADD_ORIG_DEST=true
RANDOM=true
NON_REAL_REMOVAL_THRESHOLD=5
MAIN_WINDOW_X=1947
MAIN_WINDOW_Y=511
PARK_GROUNDSPEED=20
VERSION_CHECKED_AT=May  3, 2020
PROGRAM_VERSION=17.5
INSTALL_PATH=C:\Lockheed Martin\PSXseeconTraffic_v5.42
ALWAYS_ON_TOP=false
SYNC_FPS=false
HEAVY_MIDDLE_AIRCRAFT=true
LIGHT_AIRCRAFT=true
HELICOPTERS=true
INCLUDE_NOTYPES=false
LOG_MATCHING=true
LOG_APF=false
AUTO_MODE=false
LIVE_IF_USER_AIRBORNE=false
LOG_PARKING=false
COLLISION_LIVE_PARKED_GND=false
COLLISION_USER_GND=false
UPS=20
FLOOR_ALTITUDE=-1000
LATERAL_RANGE=100
BLOCK_CALLSIGN=
LIVERIES_FOLDER=C:\Lockheed Martin\AILGenerator\liveries
AIRPORTS_FOLDER=C:\Lockheed Martin\ParkPosGenerator\airports
FLIGHTPLANSFOLDER=
**********************************************************************

VERSION_CHECKED_AT=May  4, 2020
Reading airport's data from "C:\Lockheed Martin\ParkPosGenerator\airports"
Reading airport's data from "parked_updates"
35 airports found
82 aircraft heights read from "C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\PSXseeconTraffic\avg_heights.txt"
Waiting for data provider to connect to PSXT ...
Waiting for Flight Simulator ...
Lockheed Martin Prepar3D v4 connected
Data provider connected

Aircraft type information read from "data\types.xml"
author: PSXseeconTraffic, version: 17.4, date: Feb 28, 2020

Wingspan information read from "data\wingspan.xml"
author: PSXseeconTraffic, version: 17.4, date: Feb 28, 2020


*************************************** liveries summary ***************************************
2426 liveries read from file "C:\Lockheed Martin\AILGenerator\liveries\AI_liveries.xml", of which 30 specials
author: AILGenerator, version: 5.0, date: Mon May  4

8062 registration codes found in the liveries of the user
generic Boeing liveries for 53 types: AN24 AS50 B190 B38M B39M B733 B734 B736 B737 B738 B739 
   B741 B744 B748 B74S B762 B763 B764 B772 B773 B77L B77W B788 B789 B78X BE20 BE36 BE9L C152 
   C17 C172 C182 C206 C208 C402 C421 C56X C750 C82R CL30 CL35 CRJ9 DC87 DH8B DH8C DH8D PA46 
   PC12 S76 SHIP SR22 SW4 U21 
generic Airbus liveries for 17 types: A20N A21N A30B A318 A319 A320 A332 A339 A342 A343 A345 
   A346 A359 A35K A388 B737 B738 
no generic Embraer liveries
generic Bombardier liveries for 3 types: BCS1 BCS3 CRJX 
no generic ATR liveries
no generic Private liveries
269 unique airlines, 94 unique aircraft types
Default livery set for aircraft category Heavy, type A333, # liveries: 92
Default livery set for aircraft category Middle, type B738, # liveries: 418
Default livery set for aircraft category Light, type C208, # liveries: 5
Default livery set for aircraft category Heli, type AS50, # liveries: 1
************************************************************************************************

22946 registration codes added from "data\regcodes.xml"
author: AILGenerator, version: 5.1, date: Sep 14, 2019

User aircraft title: AiTrackerX Observer
User aircraft model: camerapod
Connecting QNHReader to UDP port 49004 ...
QNHReader connected
Connecting TrafficReader to UDP port 49003 ...
TrafficReader connected
QNH=1013
User on the ground at airport KLAX, standing still
The parking airport is: KLAX (LAX)

Out of business information read from "data\outofbusiness.xml"
author: Nico, version: 2.2, date: Mar 5, 2020

===> Counted # real live parking positions 144 differs from value 143 in the file, corrected

Parkpos file "parked_updates\KLAX.xml" for Los Angeles Intl
author: ParkPosGenerator, version: 14.0, date: Dec  2, 2019

    supplier: FS Dreamteam
    179 parking positions, of which
    144 real live parking positions (80%), with 
    536 real live options, and 
    2070 defined hours
    strict parking: false
    soft  learning: false
    last update May  3, 2020

Hour:  0 134 **************************************************************************************************************************************
Hour:  1 133 *************************************************************************************************************************************
Hour:  2  59 ***********************************************************
Hour:  3  57 *********************************************************
Hour:  4  50 **************************************************
Hour:  5  49 *************************************************
Hour:  6  34 **********************************
Hour:  7  39 ***************************************
Hour:  8  25 *************************
Hour:  9   9 *********
Hour: 10  11 ***********
Hour: 11  15 ***************
Hour: 12  17 *****************
Hour: 13  30 ******************************
Hour: 14  45 *********************************************
Hour: 15  52 ****************************************************
Hour: 16  57 *********************************************************
Hour: 17  52 ****************************************************
Hour: 18  54 ******************************************************
Hour: 19  55 *******************************************************
Hour: 20  57 *********************************************************
Hour: 21  66 ******************************************************************
Hour: 22  51 ***************************************************
Hour: 23  61 *************************************************************

No aircraft to be parked, percentage = 0
ANZ6081  ZK-NZR   AKL ->DRW  B789 === FSPXAI B787-9 Dreamliner New Zealand ZE AI
ATN3414  N419AZ              B763 === ABX Air Boeing 767-338(ERF) N364CM
N223LA   N223LA              AS50 =g= Eurocopter AS-350 Test
N29LB    N29LB               AS50 =g= Eurocopter AS-350 Test
N520PD   N520PD              MD52 =d= Eurocopter AS-350 Test
N523HB   N523HB              MD52 =d= Eurocopter AS-350 Test
UAL1511  N460UA   LIR ->IAH  A320 =r= FAIB Airbus A320-200 IAE United
ANZ6081  ZK-NZR   AKL ->DRW  B789 stream size: 10, no add msg rcvd from SimConnect ?!, will be removed
AAL772   N163US   PHL ->LAX  A321 =r= FAIB Airbus A321-200 CFM American Airlines (ex US Airways)
CPA086   B-LJK    HKG ->HKG  B748 =r= Cathay Pacific Cargo Boeing 747-8F OC
UAL1057  N494UA   ORD ->PHX  A320 =r= FAIB Airbus A320-200 IAE United
CPA086   B-LJK    HKG ->HKG  B748 stream size: 6, no add msg rcvd from SimConnect ?!, will be removed
AAL2289  N907AA   MIA ->LAX  A321 =r= FAIB Airbus A321-200 SL IAE American Airlines
UPS=20
Exiting: USER CLOSED SIM
07:59:17 User closed PSXseeconTraffic
QNH Reader has stopped
Traffic Reader has stopped
07:59:18 "parked_updates\KLAX.xml" saved and sorted

*************************************** live traffic livery matching summary ***************************************
Mon May  4 07:59:18 2020 (utc)
11 liveries needed
81% (9) were completely matched, of which 55% (5) upon registration code (r)
 =g= 2 generic liveries generated for unknown airlines
 =d= 2 default liveries generated
********************************************************************************************************************

MAIN_WINDOW_X=1947
MAIN_WINDOW_Y=511
Mon May  4 07:59:18 2020

 

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PSXT 17.1 gives that message if stream size >= 32 and it did not remove the livery from its administration but it reduced the stream to 1 (so it just continued with the same livery)..

PSXT 17.4 and 17.5 give that message if stream size >= 5 and it removes the livery from its admin, so another livery will be created later on (assuming the first livery is not created/visible in P3D, which as your case shows is a wrong assumption.... That's why you could see double liveries.

(note: stream means a number of data positions for a live aircraft coming from Real Traffic; every 9 seconds one).

So I think you may always have had this problem, but in 17.4 onwards it became obvious .... and I think it depends on the actual QNH and it has nothing to do with SimConnect but with a flaw in my code. 

I believe you have found a nasty bug, thx for bringing it up. Will try to fix it.

Edited by kiek

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Thanks for looking! Appreciated.

If there's any specific time intervals or requirements to the QNH data input that are not already set out in the docs let me know.

 

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