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What video INPUT do you use for P3d?

Display Port or HDMI?  

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  1. 1. Do you use Display Port or HDMI with P3d?

    • Display Port
      34
    • Display Port with GSync
      13
    • HDMI
      27
    • Display Port AND HDMI (different monitors)
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I was very curious as to what type of DISPLAY you use for P3d, and if you definitely see an advantage of one over the other.

I've tried both and I'm still trying to decide if one is superior in clarity, FPS strength, stability.

Thanks, 
Stan

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I actually use both DP and HDMI for different monitors.

 


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Need an option for both in your survey.
I use a combination as I run 3 monitors and my 1070 didn't come with three of the same connection type.


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37 minutes ago, F737NG said:

Need an option for both in your survey.
I use a combination as I run 3 monitors and my 1070 didn't come with three of the same connection type.

It's added.

Stan

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Currently I run my monitor with a display port to hdmi adapter (monitor does not have a DP, card has 3 DP and one 1 HDMI out, so I can plug in my VR headset that uses an HDMI port, also when I stream I plug in a tv that I have hanging on my wall near my computer via that hdmi so I can look at the chat etc.

 

probably time to upgrade to a newer monitor to be honest.


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My RTX2080ti actually allows for a USB-C conection 

I run my second Samsung monitor with this


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Here, a single (ultrawide) screen connected with HDMI. With HDMI, I can sent ATC chatter to the (poor quality) screen speakers. Other sounds go to the regular better quality speaker.

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This is a good question however I think it is limited because individual specs come into play - One for example is Free Sync being available and that only working through HDMI or Display Port  and an appropriate graphics card.

There is some argument in the technical circles/forums that Display Port gives better functionality for multiple monitors and adaptive sync. If you can (wish to) drive 8K you can only do that over Display Port (v1.4) so for the future flight sim that may well be the way to go. I have only glimpsed one article in the 100s about the new 3000 series Nvidia card (and it was only 1 line at that) that mentioned the 3080Ti as being the first card capable of sustained 8K.

My 4k is on Display Port and the 2k(portrait mode) is on HDMI simply because rotating the screen caused the DP to be in a bugger of a location.


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Gsync works with HDMI and DisplayPort and USB-C ... not sure where you are going with this survey?  There are several versions of DisplayPort and several versions of HDMI.

I prefer HDMI 2.x but that requires a GPU that supports HDMI 2.x (2.0a or 2.1).  Oddly GPU's tend to have more DisplayPort ports vs. HDMI ports.  I prefer SmartTV's with HDMI because they are designed to work well at 24-30Hz and 60Hz and 120Hz.  Dedicated PC monitors with DisplayPort often don't operate well at 30hz and seem to work best at 60Hz or higher.  This is a "rule of thumb" as there are always exceptions.  

If you're on nVidia GPU side, then this list of monitors might help:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/

This list has an important column called "Variable Refresh Rate Range", since P3D V5 now supports VRR/Gsync/FreeSync.  Personally I can't imagine Gsync at 1 Hz, a good range is 20Hz-120Hz.

No idea if that is where you are going with this Stan, but my 2 cents.

Cheers, Rob.

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13 minutes ago, Uteman said:

If you can (wish to) drive 8K you can only do that over Display Port (v1.4) so for the future flight sim that may well be the way to go.

That's not accurate, HDMI 2.1 can drive upto 10K resolution at 120Hz.  My LG C9 OLED is HDMI 2.1 and I use HDMI 2.1 (48Gbits/sec) specific cable.  I specifically got this monitor to see how HDR10 looks in those supported Sims/Games.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

Cheers, Rob.

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27 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

That's not accurate, HDMI 2.1 can drive upto 10K resolution at 120Hz.  My LG C9 OLED is HDMI 2.1 and I use HDMI 2.1 (48Gbits/sec) specific cable.  I specifically got this monitor to see how HDR10 looks in those supported Sims/Games.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

Cheers, Rob.

Seems like my info is out of date Rob, thanks for the correction. My focus has been on DP mainly because of it bandwidth capacity iirc its around 78Gb/sec for v2 (which will go over 60FPS without compression) and hadn't picked up on the uprating of HDMI at 8K @ 30FPS.

Cheers


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9 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Gsync works with HDMI and DisplayPort and USB-C ... not sure where you are going with this survey?  There are several versions of DisplayPort and several versions of HDMI.

I prefer HDMI 2.x but that requires a GPU that supports HDMI 2.x (2.0a or 2.1).  Oddly GPU's tend to have more DisplayPort ports vs. HDMI ports.  I prefer SmartTV's with HDMI because they are designed to work well at 24-30Hz and 60Hz and 120Hz.  Dedicated PC monitors with DisplayPort often don't operate well at 30hz and seem to work best at 60Hz or higher.  This is a "rule of thumb" as there are always exceptions.  

If you're on nVidia GPU side, then this list of monitors might help:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/

This list has an important column called "Variable Refresh Rate Range", since P3D V5 now supports VRR/Gsync/FreeSync.  Personally I can't imagine Gsync at 1 Hz, a good range is 20Hz-120Hz.

No idea if that is where you are going with this Stan, but my 2 cents.

Cheers, Rob.

Curiosity, Rob.  My LG monitor has both capabilities and I've switched between the 2 in an effort to see if one or the other works better in P3dv5.

I'm looking for every possible change to my system that would make v5 work smoother, and eliminate possible stutter or pause catalysts.  If there is a connection or an improvement of one over the other, I'm trying to find out from other simmers if they have tested these imputs and found any differences.  

Curiosity sometimes unveils or unwraps a hidden bit of knowledge.

Stan

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Did you check NCP to see what each option provided for refresh rates?

If your monitor is Gsync/Freesync capable (enable in NCP) then determine its VRR range and then setup P3D V5 to stay within that range (worst case FPS) and enable VRR in P3D V5.

If 60Hz is your only option, then either adjust P3D V5 settings or use RTSS to frame limit to 30.

As a test, you can disable all add-ons and set V5 graphics settings low making sure your FPS exceeds monitor Hz, enable Vsync and check for stutters.  If you still get stutters then it’s likely something external or hardware or driver or OS related.

Cheers, Rob.

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10 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Dedicated PC monitors with DisplayPort often don't operate well at 30hz and seem to work best at 60Hz or higher.  This is a "rule of thumb" as there are always exceptions.  

If you're on nVidia GPU side, then this list of monitors might help:

Cheers, Rob.

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20 hours ago, spilok said:

I was very curious as to what type of DISPLAY you use for P3d, and if you definitely see an advantage of one over the other.

I've tried both and I'm still trying to decide if one is superior in clarity, FPS strength, stability.

Thanks, 
Stan

As a display for P3D v4/v5, I use a Rift S, and before that I used an Odyssey+, a CV1 and - a long time back - a DK2.

My rating:

  • Clarity - meh.
  • FPS strength - nah
  • Stability - meh

...but worth it! 🙂

 


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