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I noticed a performance increase over the HF1 of about 15-20 FPS. With HF2, The P3D V5 is no longer torturing my GPU like HF1 did, which caused several OOM problems even on minimum settings.

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I am having a great deal more success with HF2 compared to the earlier versions.  I completely uninstalled everything related to v5 (program and addons) and started over clean with HF2.  Thus far, several scenarios and addons that for me would have crashed under HF1 have been fine in this latest version (so far - knock on wood), and the performance overall is noticeably improved over HF1 and earlier. An encouraging step in the right direction.

I am slowly installing addons and testing them methodically; so far, the only CTD I have experienced with HF2 is when I tried the Realair Turbine Duke (which of course is not - and almost certainly never will be - updated for use with v5). Sadly, I may have to retire that wonderful bird, which is a shame as there is really no other turboprop replacement currently officially compatible with v5.

Cautiously optimistic as I introduce more addons...  I am not using Enhanced Atmospherics right now, as I find the lighting much too dark in daytime overcast conditions, the tech just isn't yet effective in representing varied cloud types and the cloud-to-ground interactions are still off-putting (although improved). I think I am going to avoid EA for now until it is further advanced or out of beta.


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29 minutes ago, PurdueKev said:

 

I am slowly installing addons and testing them methodically; so far, the only CTD I have experienced with HF2 is when I tried the Realair Turbine Duke (which of course is not - and almost certainly never will be - updated for use with v5). Sadly, I may have to retire that wonderful bird, which is a shame as there is really no other turboprop replacement currently officially compatible with v5.

 

I would say.. park the TDuke for now.. but I seriously doubt that it cannot be made to work in V5.. have faith!  The Carenado C90GTX, TBM 850,  and PC12 may or may not be "officially compatible" but they seem to work just fine 🙂

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1 hour ago, PurdueKev said:

I am slowly installing addons and testing them methodically; so far, the only CTD I have experienced with HF2 is when I tried the Realair Turbine Duke (which of course is not - and almost certainly never will be - updated for use with v5). Sadly, I may have to retire that wonderful bird, which is a shame as there is really no other turboprop replacement currently officially compatible with v5.

You can't just install it you need to use an xml method. I copied the same Duke and Legacy folders I used in my P3Dv4.5 Addons folder and both work fine in P3Dv5 H2 and even the GTN 750 still works!

Joe

 

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What's the problem with the Turbine Duke. I just flew a few circuits around home airport. Works fine, just the old touchy wheel brakes - but that's always been my one complaint of all RA birds.


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1 hour ago, joepoway said:

You can't just install it you need to use an xml method. I copied the same Duke and Legacy folders I used in my P3Dv4.5 Addons folder and both work fine in P3Dv5 H2 and even the GTN 750 still works!

Joe

 

That is the method I used.

1 hour ago, jimcarrel said:

What's the problem with the Turbine Duke. I just flew a few circuits around home airport. Works fine, just the old touchy wheel brakes - but that's always been my one complaint of all RA birds.

At least for me, the Turbine Duke is one of the aircraft with which I saw a fair number of repeatable "display driver hang" crashes with the initial release version of P3D and with HF1.  I have been pretty methodical with HF2 to introduce addons slowly so I can isolate any "problem" addons, and so when I experienced the same type of crash I repeated the same flight with other aircraft and completed those flights without issue. Granted, I did not test thoroughly to isolate that the Duke was indeed the culprit, and it is certainly possible it isn't the source of the problem; I just don't really want to spend the effort to do controlled de-bugging when the aircraft isn't technically updated for v5. Believe me I hated uninstalling it, because the Turbine Duke is my favorite and most used aircraft in P3D.  I still have my copy of v4.5 installed and the Duke lives on in there - if I have time I may bring it back in to test further.

If you are having success with the Duke in v5 that is great! I just haven't had the same success with it on my system yet.

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I just installed lastest HF2 (clean install) on my Dev PC -- 7900X with Titan X (pascal) -- and Win10 build 19041 with latest nVidia 451.48 drivers and I'm very impressed with performance in terms of far fewer long frames and a narrow FPS range with higher min FPS.  Looking forward to finishing setting up my main FS PC to see how it does ... the 19041 + 451.48 combo seems very good!

Cheers, Rob.

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2 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

I just installed lastest HF2 (clean install) on my Dev PC -- 7900X with Titan X (pascal) -- and Win10 build 19041 with latest nVidia 451.48 drivers and I'm very impressed with performance in terms of far fewer long frames and a narrow FPS range with higher min FPS.  Looking forward to finishing setting up my main FS PC to see how it does ... the 19041 + 451.48 combo seems very good!

Cheers, Rob.

Hi Rob,

I've got 451.48 as well - Are there any settings within that driver set that might improve performance in V5HF2 that you know about? I saw some discussion on Hardware Scheduling I think it was.....


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4 minutes ago, KL Oo said:

I've got 451.48 as well - Are there any settings within that driver set that might improve performance in V5HF2 that you know about?

Sorry, haven't really had much time to test, I've just recently moved house and have my Dev PC up and running but not my main FS PC yet.  I usually don't modify NCP settings, but I'll experiment once I get my main FS PC up and running.

The 451.48 drivers are supposed to work even better with RTX cards (2080s on up), so hoping to see even more improvements on my FS PC with the Titan RTX.

Cheers, Rob.

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6 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

I just installed lastest HF2 (clean install) on my Dev PC -- 7900X with Titan X (pascal) -- and Win10 build 19041 with latest nVidia 451.48 drivers and I'm very impressed with performance in terms of far fewer long frames and a narrow FPS range with higher min FPS.  Looking forward to finishing setting up my main FS PC to see how it does ... the 19041 + 451.48 combo seems very good!

Cheers, Rob.

Is 19041 part of the new 2004 release, or are you still on the previous one? I wanted to update to 2004 but Windows won't let me even when I signed up for the Insider program - Windows Update runs a compatibility check and then says "nope." I guess I still have something in my system triggering the "compatibility hold."

I do agree that HF2 is noticeably smoother (and faster), even with slightly older drivers. In dense locales, I don't see many long frames either.


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3 minutes ago, PurdueKev said:

Is 19041 part of the new 2004 release, or are you still on the previous one?

Yes 19041 is the 2004 release ... in the Search box type "system info" and you'll get your version/build number there.  My understanding is the 451.48 drivers are the first "official" set to utilize Win10 2004 new WDDM 2.7.  But I was able to update to Win10 2004 on the 446.14 drivers.  

I'm NOT using the Insider version of Windows.

Cheers, Rob.

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1 hour ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Sorry, haven't really had much time to test, I've just recently moved house and have my Dev PC up and running but not my main FS PC yet.  I usually don't modify NCP settings,

I typically do not either, BUT I'm wondering if the old FS stalwart of "Prefer Maximum Performance" should still be set.  I haven't yet done that with these 451.48's


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14 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

I just installed lastest HF2 (clean install) on my Dev PC -- 7900X with Titan X (pascal) -- and Win10 build 19041 with latest nVidia 451.48 drivers and I'm very impressed with performance in terms of far fewer long frames and a narrow FPS range with higher min FPS.  Looking forward to finishing setting up my main FS PC to see how it does ... the 19041 + 451.48 combo seems very good!

Cheers, Rob.

I agree Rob the combination of the 3 (P3Dv5 H2, 351.48 drivers and Win 10 v2004) has yielded results the likes I have never seen in P3D!

Joe

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On 6/23/2020 at 11:23 AM, Lorby_SI said:

Hello @ll,

can any of you fly the (default) helicopters? On my computer, the flight is choppy (especially vertically), I can't go higher than 1000ft and I can't get them to land properly/at all.

Clean install, no addons.

Best regards

 

Lorby / O.  -- I finally found a few minutes to fly the default Robinson around.  I had no problem with its flight.


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On 6/24/2020 at 7:43 AM, Rob_Ainscough said:

Related to TrueSKY (EA) ... to make rain not show inside the VC when using TrueSKY/EA you need to uncheck all reflections.

 

LM are aiming to address all (many) of the TrueSKY/EA issues in V5.1.

Cheers, Rob.

Thanks Rob. It works !


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