Traffic Global

[ssair1 92]

It's been approximately two months since the release of v5, and "Ultimate Traffic Live" has yet to come out with an official installer. Therefore, I'm considering purchasing "Traffic Global," since it's compatible with v5. Any advice or recommendations? If you do own TG, how does it run? FPS friendly? When was the last update?

Edited June 27, 2020 by ssair1

[edpatino 1,960]

Look for the excellent AI Traffic package from AIG (Alpha India Group). It's excellent and is updated almost every day with schedules, as well as models, airlines. And one more thing, it's freeware, but you can donate of you wish to support its continued development.

Cheers, Ed

[Dreamflight767 312]

I have it.  I take a pretty high FPS hit.  The airplanes look OK, not great.  I've noticed that the 737 don't have winglets.  There are airplanes around airports but sometimes I find airlines that don't belong.

[edpatino 1,960]

1 minute ago, Dreamflight767 said:

I've noticed that the 737 don't have winglets

You'd probably have to check your setup, you should have all types of winglets types on your B737s.

2 minutes ago, Dreamflight767 said:

I take a pretty high FPS hit

Very fluid here, on both of my systems, desktop and laptop.

Cheers, Ed

[Dave_YVR 968]

6 minutes ago, edpatino said:

You'd probably have to check your setup, you should have all types of winglets types on your B737s.

No, he's right (referring to TG, not AIG). While there are some 737's that have winglets (just regular ones, not any with SSW's). Most do not, the entire United and Alaska fleets for example irl all have SSW's and in TG, they have none all let alone most aren't even the right model of 737 either. I've also noticed many A320's that don't even have wingfence's either (Air Canada), let alone any with Sharklets or NEOs etc.

 Do yourself a big favour and use AIG's free offering, it's superior in every way.

[edpatino 1,960]

15 minutes ago, Dave_YVR said:

 Do yourself a big favour and use AIG's free offering, it's superior in every way

Sorry, my fault, I thought he was referring to AIG.

Actually I'm a very happy user of AIG.

Cheers, Ed

[Chock 17,769]

It works in the sense that it adds reasonably well-suited aeroplanes to your airports, which most of the time are types and liveries you would see at those locations, and these do taxy and take off and land and taxy in, as well as fly around to various destinations. They're not always on the stands they would be on in real life, but they're a fairly close approximation of it. So if this is enough for you, and you want what is pretty much a one click solution, then you will be happy with it.

If on the other hand you want it to completely accurately represent your airports actual aeroplanes which are on the ramp there for real at any one moment, then you'll be disappointed because it most certainly doesn't do that.

One thing which nobody ever mentions, but which might have a bearing on using it if you use a second small monitor with your sim for utilities and such, is that if you run TG on a lower screen resolution when initially setting it up, the GUI does not display all the buttons correctly, including the 'compile' button, so you would never get it to compile traffic if you ran it at, for example 1024 px, since you'd not see the compile button to be able to click on it at that resolution. That is a pretty poor bit of GUI design right there.

Generally speaking, I have a lot of time for Just Flight, but Traffic Global's protracted development and slow progress is not exactly their finest hour, and if I was the JF boss, I'd have been sending a rocket up the developer's @rse, for not doing their job well at all.

Edited June 27, 2020 by Chock

[craigeaglefire 195]

1 hour ago, Dave_YVR said:

it's superior in every way

apart from 1-Click install (which it 'promises')!

GUIs came out in around 1985!

& many of you acknowledge that the Tutorial & Manual are 'sub-par',

how about, Dave, you help @Kaiii3 get some proper process & documentation?

& a fairly full fleet of AI payware is about USD$200 (Simmarket) - by my rough reckoning,

i just purchased AI Lights Reborn Pro & it has given me some good times with Traffic Global (VERY Early Access) - heck, AILRP even highlights the coding faults of TG,

some of us just do not have the time to 'wrangle' with sub-par install processes/documentation,

& TBH, i would prefer to indulge in some satisfying Quest VR time, when away from multiple flight sims. 

[rob0203 686]

Ultimate traffic live works just fine. Just run the installer and add it as a addon.

[Kaiii3 1,967]

3 hours ago, craigeaglefire said:

apart from 1-Click install (which it 'promises')!

GUIs came out in around 1985!

& many of you acknowledge that the Tutorial & Manual are 'sub-par',

how about, Dave, you help @Kaiii3 get some proper process & documentation?

& a fairly full fleet of AI payware is about USD$200 (Simmarket) - by my rough reckoning,

i just purchased AI Lights Reborn Pro & it has given me some good times with Traffic Global (VERY Early Access) - heck, AILRP even highlights the coding faults of TG,

some of us just do not have the time to 'wrangle' with sub-par install processes/documentation,

& TBH, i would prefer to indulge in some satisfying Quest VR time, when away from multiple flight sims. 

GUI is default Windows since we do not have the time or the $$$ to contract a designer for that. Remember this stuff is still freeware and it is not about the UI, it is a simple management tool - no need for a shiny UI.

The process will not change, it has been carefully designed so it can be extendet anytime with new futures without braking anything other. This program is still in a beta process and the documentation is WIP. For the release of AIM 1.0 we will update the whole documentation.

See you made there actual a great point: AILRP pointing out errors in a payware software you are using - IMO it is very sad that a payware addon has so major errors that some other addon is pointing to them - make me feel like it is not tested before release.

[mazelda 124]

6 hours ago, Dreamflight767 said:

I have it.  I take a pretty high FPS hit.  The airplanes look OK, not great.  I've noticed that the 737 don't have winglets.  There are airplanes around airports but sometimes I find airlines that don't belong.

Go to the aig site and search for ai companion. Set it up there is a good guide on youtube and your frames should increase mine went from about 9 at egll to a usable 16. I set it to max 130 ai and radius of 10 miles 

I would get oom in p3dv5 at certain airports before but with this i'm able to fly without to many issues

[OzWhitey 3,353]

8 hours ago, ssair1 said:

It's been approximately two months since the release of v5, and "Ultimate Traffic Live" has yet to come out with an official installer. Therefore, I'm considering purchasing "Traffic Global," since it's compatible with v5. Any advice or recommendations? If you do own TG, how does it run? FPS friendly? When was the last update?

Specific advice with regards to your questions:

- I'm considering purchasing "Traffic Global,"

Cut up your credit cards now, just in case you get drunk one night and actually decide to do this.

- Any advice or recommendations?

As I'm sure everyone already said, AIG. But UTL is a better option than TG, I still have UTL installed as a backup option to AIG in v5HF2.

- If you do own TG, how does it run?

Installation in v4 required a full reinstall of P3D to salvage the sim. Installation in V5 caused a host of errors, but the sim was salvageable with an hour or so of work to troubleshoot and remove TG, so I count that as a win. I believe the current version is better, but after my first two experiences I am not stupid enough to try it again. There are reports in these forums of TG causing CTD in v5HF2, so a reinstall is really not that tempting.

- FPS friendly?

How do you measure FPS if the sim will not run? 

- When was the last update?

The broader question is "Will it ever leave 'early access'.

 

 

[Ray Proudfoot 8,927]

6 hours ago, craigeaglefire said:

apart from 1-Click install (which it 'promises')!

GUIs came out in around 1985!

& many of you acknowledge that the Tutorial & Manual are 'sub-par',

how about, Dave, you help @Kaiii3 get some proper process & documentation?

The product is donated to the community without charge. How about balancing that with praise for the excellent mostly freeware aircraft and multiple flight plans that quite frankly, put payware equivalents to shame.

[craigeaglefire 195]

you'll all freak out if very Beta AIG OCI actually matures & becomes a normal $paid product.

we'll see the outcome together.

[Kaiii3 1,967]

12 minutes ago, craigeaglefire said:

you'll all freak out if very Beta AIG OCI actually matures & becomes a normal $paid product.

we'll see the outcome together.

AIG AI Manager and OCI will never become payware. AIG has never been payware and is only finaced based on Donations