July 12, 20205 yr Hi Folks, Jet A is probably the most combustible product onboard. Shipboard fires are no joke. Be safe shipmates. Regards, Scott
July 12, 20205 yr Moderator I heard on the news about an hour ago that everyone who isn't on the fire team has been evacuated to shore. It's going to be a mess that's for sure! Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 13, 20205 yr Definitely not looking good. Edited July 13, 20205 yr by goates Added Twitter link to photo
July 13, 20205 yr Author This fire could go on for days... Fortunately it happened on a Sunday while it was in dock; probably not full crew onboard... reports that source is possible welding accident... https://twitter.com/i/status/1282566574612852737
July 13, 20205 yr Moderator The island's forward section has melted and is leaning forward now. I suspect this will prove to be a total loss for the vessel. Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 13, 20205 yr Hi Folks, Another shipyard worker that wanted to go home early ? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/15/nuclear-submarine-fire/1990663/ Regards, Scott Edited July 13, 20205 yr by scottb613
July 13, 20205 yr Interesting article, Scott. Quote Casey James Fury also was ordered to pay $400 million in restitution ... that will take some doing.. Mark Robinson Part-time Ferroequinologist Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon) I made the baby cry - A2A Simulations L-049 Constellation Sky Simulations MD-11 V2.2 Pilot. The best "lite" MD-11 money can buy (well, it's not freeware!)
July 13, 20205 yr 59 minutes ago, n4gix said: The island's forward section has melted and is leaning forward now. I suspect this will prove to be a total loss for the vessel. It almost certainly is a write off. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/34772/uss-bonhomme-richards-bridge-engulfed-in-flames-as-fire-rages-into-the-night Going to be a lot of explaining to do when you loose one of your largest ships in port.
July 13, 20205 yr 51 minutes ago, goates said: Going to be a lot of explaining to do when you loose one of your largest ships in port. Outside of the Civil War burning of ships in port at Norfolk yard (to keep them from falling into the hands of the Confederacy), has the USN ever had a ship burn out in port? Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
July 13, 20205 yr From reporting, the ship had been in a major maintenance "availability". There is some indication that during the availability ships' company was moved off the ship to a berthing barge. But what I read was the availability "should" have been about done by now. So if the crew was moved off, it should have been moving back about around now. In a major availability like this, many systems are deactivated either to be repaired, or to gain access to repair or upgrade other items. Normally not much yard work is done on the weekend, but if they were behind schedule they might have authorized some OT. If the only ships force aboard is the duty section (due to everyone else living off ship) there is a duty fire team that is required to be qualified, but it is pretty small considering. Keep in mind the ship is in home port, so even with the crew living aboard most crew not in the duty section would be at home. If there was welding "hot work" there are required "fire watch" which in my experience was always the responsibility of the ship, not the yard. But again, at this point in the availability I wouldn't expect much hot work going on -- should mostly be testing. As far as fuel, in an availability you don't have fuel on board. And in the navy we don't use Jet A. Instead we use what's called JP-5 (NATO F-44), due to flash point. The flammability of JP-5 is no different than the ship's propulsion fuel Diesel Fuel Marine (NATO F-76). Again at this point in the availability, they may be close to the first "lite-off" of the ship's boilers so there may be some fuel aboard. It's always a problem in availabilities that service lines for things like compressed air for air tools or power for electrical tools are run all over the ship. There's certain fire-control boundaries set where service lines are prohibited and these can be closed up in a fire, but many other doors/hatches have lines running though them. Of course in this situation, if you can get to them you take a fire ax and cut through them, but you have to be able to get to them. I don't know the status of the repair lockers (where all the fire fighting gear is stowed). But all other ships in the port also have a duty section "repair and assist" detail which can bring firefighting gear to the ship. Most importantly are the OBA that supply oxygen from generating canisters (also bring all the canisters you can get your hands on). Nominally a canister should be good for an hour or so, but in a situation like this you will burn though a can pretty quick. One thing we did after the British "Falklands" war experience, is institute a "mass conflagration" drill, which required all-hands to be ready to fight this sort of thing, but that's all predicated on having the full crew aboard in a "general quarters" posture. Have to speculate if some "corona" BS contributed to this. scott s. .
July 13, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, HighBypass said: Interesting article, Scott. ... that will take some doing.. Hi Mark, No kidding - as a submariner - this story hit close to home. Regards, Scott
July 13, 20205 yr More info given on The Drive today. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/34801/two-decks-are-thought-to-separate-fire-on-uss-bonhomme-richard-from-1m-gallons-of-fuel There is fuel on board at the moment, though it is two decks below the fire.
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