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Updating my multi monitor setup to 4K (monitor, TV or wide)

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Thanks Ted,

Now with the image I will definitely go to a store and see what I like. You are right be saying, only me can decide what size I like better.

Thanks for the advice.

Pierre


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Hi Pierre, a few images will help, believe me. Images coming in the next hour.


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No rush, I will go shopping only nest week.

Pierre


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Who wants to bet Pierre doesn’t buy something that day? 😆


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5 minutes ago, Ted Striker said:

Who wants to bet Pierre doesn’t buy something that day? 😆

Well he's got 5 4K images of the various parts of the PMDG737NGX cockpit that will certainly make him lick his lips. Going to 4K from 1080 is a four-fold leap in resolution! Once the images have been seen on various TVs what possible reason is there to delay? 😁


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Maybe more then one choices. 😄

I will report back on my finding and choice, just to make sure I buying a good one.

Pierre


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2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Once the images have been seen on various TVs what possible reason is there to delay? 😁

Especially when the sales rep says "The sale on this one ends today." 😄

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On 7/19/2020 at 3:41 PM, PierreFSX said:

I would like to upgrade to 4K and my understanding after reading a lot of topic on this forum, is that I should go down to one monitor and drop the overhead view. My card will not support a 4K monitor and the VE278H 27" wide led with a acceptable FPS rate, I get with P3D v5 between 40-50, right now  . 

 

FYI:  I am running three 75'' 4k TVs with one 1080Ti.  This pushes it to the limits on medium to high settings.  I do have a home cockpit so my displays are only for scenery, so that might help me since it is not having to display a virtual cockpit as well.  I would think you could run a 4K display and a 27" 2nd display without issue.  Depending on your other PC specs as well.   


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Hi,

I finally went to a Best Buy store near by. After looking at all the different size of screen, I decide that I was ok with a 40 to 50 inches screen. But not bigger then that. They didn't have any monitor in that range, so I focused on the 4K TV. After a hour of loading Ray's PMDG 737 4K images, I narrowed my choices to the following 4 devices, in that order:

1.Samsung 49" 4K UHD HDR QLED Tizen Smart TV (QN49Q80TAFXZC) - Titan Black

2.LG 49" 4K UHD HDR LED webOS Smart TV (49UN7300PUB)

3.Samsung 50" 4K UHD HDR LED Tizen Smart TV (UN50TU7000FXZC) - Titan Grey

4.Sony 49" 4K UHD HDR LED Android Smart TV (XBR49X800H)

The first one is a bit more expensive but the brightness and sharpness of the image was incredible. 

So is any of one of those are a better choice?

Thanks Ray for the image, it helped a lot.

Pierre  

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@PierreFSX, I can’t give you any advice that is better than your own eyes. If you’re happy with the image quality as you appear to be then go for it. Samsung make some excellent TVs.

My only advice is to check if it supports chroma 4:4:4 and 30Hz. A check of the downloadable manual should confirm that.


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Thanks again Ray,

From what I can read it does support chroma 4:4:4 but I am not sure about the 30 Hz? It does have great review 

Pierre


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Hi Pierre,

It seems it might reading the Emanual on this link. https://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/202006/20200618112841534/NIKATSCT-3.0.7_EM_NIKE_USA_ENG_200527.0.pdf

BluRay disks often play back at 24Hz so it would suggest 30Hz is achievable.


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That the manual I did reviewed and I find two mentions for the 30HZ on page 130

The native resolutions are 3840 x 2160 at 60 Hz (UHD models) and 7680 x 4320 at 60Hz (Q800T series or higher) with the Input Signal Plus set to On. The native resolution is 3840 x 2160 at 30 Hz with the Input Signal Plus set to Off.

and in Supported Resolutions for Video Signals table on page 135.

But in this review, it is not clear what refresh rate it supports....https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/q80t-qled

Just for my personal knowledge, why is the 30 HZ is important? what does it gave me?

Pierre


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@PierreFSX, those review sites won’t mention the minimum refresh rate but will the maximum. Gamers who need fast refresh rates need a display capable of delivering them.

But flight sim doesn’t fall into that category. Most of us struggle to get anything above 50 at addon airports with plentiful Ai. Having switched to 3840*2160@30Hz a couple of months ago I can vouch for the smoothness it brings.

Why have a display refreshing at 60 times a second if the data fed to it is only refreshed 30 times because that’s all the system is capable of?

It is possible to use software to artificially reduce refresh rate to 30Hz but it’s better if the monitor can deliver it naturally.

Supported refresh rates are generally only shown in the user manual, not on the website with the sales blurb. You have to dig for them.

I have setup FSUIPC to reduce Ai at busy airports to maintain 30fps. It results in a very smooth sim.


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One more question,

In my research I starting to realize that tv below 50 inches do not support Variable Refresh Rate, But they all do if you go to 55 inches. Is VRR important to me?

Pierre 


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