Is MSFS 2020 best aviation simulator in the world?

[IgorBR 19]

In terms of simulation itself such as aircraft behaviour, movement, delay, response, physics, etc...., is MSFS2020 even better simulation software than those that are used by airlines in their training facilities? Or to be more precise, when we see those simulators that airlines use for training of pilots (I do not know how they are called), what software are they running? Do they run FSX, P3D, or are they going to run MSFS2020? Thanks.

[MatthewS 761]

8 minutes ago, IgorBR said:

when we see those simulators that airlines use for training of pilots (I do not know how they are called), what software are they running?

AFAIK they use specialised/in-house software (not FSX etc)

[Wobbie 937]

MSFS is licensed as an entertainment product, unlike P3D & other 'Not for entertainment' products/simulators.

P3D is used by proper sim training companies such as RedBird & Frasca.

So, no! MSFS is licensed as a game. Professional training sims are far better & normally dedicated & made for a single aircraft type, also with 6 deg of movement set up prodeedurally. 

[tweekz 2,165]

No, not even close. MSFS, XP, P3D are designed to simulate a wide variety of aircraft. They work with approximations which are more than sufficient for a home simulator (or in some cases even to log hours), but they cannot compete with a Level D simulator for airliner training.

Those work with very accurate data including actual test flight data from that specific aircraft type. It's very specific and detailed but less flexible.

Edited August 17, 2020 by tweekz

[archipelago 11]

prettiest - yes

best - no

[G-RFRY 1,705]

Think of all the money the airlines can save 20 PC`s they can train pilots for peanuts instead of million pound simulators, i don`t think so. 

[pmb 5,137]

22 minutes ago, Wobbie said:

MSFS is licensed as an entertainment product, unlike P3D & other 'Not for entertainment' products/simulators. 

BTW, can you show me a link to the MSFS EULA? I know where to find the P3D EULA, but didn't find the MSFS EULA yet.

Thanks and kind regards, Michael

[Nedo68 533]

From today on MSFS will become one of the best flight simulations i am very sure of that,
especially for GA, the Flight physics alone are years ahead.
Just wait and see what third party will offer in the comming months/years
 

Edited August 17, 2020 by Nedo68

[dilore 126]

2 minutes ago, Nedo68 said:

From today on MSFS will become one of the best flight simulations i am very sure of that,
especially for GA, the Flight physics alone is years ahead.

Not for helicopters, sailplanes, jet fighters and hot air balloons. At least not yet. 

[Nedo68 533]

6 minutes ago, dilore said:

Not for helicopters, sailplanes, jet fighters and hot air balloons. At least not yet. 

just wait, Helis are under way...

a "Multiple Aircraft simulator" think about it, is different to just a dedicated simulator for one specific airplane.

Edited August 17, 2020 by Nedo68

[bean_sprout 1,201]

Yes.

Regards

bs

[OzWhitey 3,353]

10 hours ago, IgorBR said:

In terms of simulation itself such as aircraft behaviour, movement, delay, response, physics, etc...., is MSFS2020 even better simulation software than those that are used by airlines in their training facilities? Or to be more precise, when we see those simulators that airlines use for training of pilots (I do not know how they are called), what software are they running? Do they run FSX, P3D, or are they going to run MSFS2020? Thanks.

No way. It’s a good flight game. But it doesn’t have a high fidelity aircraft module at the moment. When it does, we’ll see what can do.

Flight models in default are ok, not brilliant.

[ErichB 3,636]

It's the best overall simulator we will have in a long, long time.  Initial teething issues aside. For the common user who is not a quallified pilot (and even for some who are) it is the closest you will ever come to being in a real aircraft without a level D sim.  Flight models aside, it's the immersion that takes it a few notches up.  Once the SDK is matured and the likes of PMDG come aboard, it will be the best civilian sim available, without exception.

Edited August 17, 2020 by ErichB

[aleex 551]

10 hours ago, archipelago said:

prettiest - yes

best - no

Mainly this. Maybe some day, but not yet. 

[IgorBR 19]

10 hours ago, OzWhitey said:

No way. It’s a good flight game. But it doesn’t have a high fidelity aircraft module at the moment. When it does, we’ll see what can do.

Flight models in default are ok, not brilliant.

So when PMDG makes a model for MSFS2020, you will say that is is very very very good?