6 minutes ago, shivers9 said:

MS Fanboi's please follow this link https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/863-microsoft-flight-simulator-2020/ 

We just don't care here..

Aren't we allowed to enjoy both - p3d + a lot of addons for IFR, & accurate payware aircraft.

FS2020 for VFR & scenery.

Until the new sim's issues are settled and we have some decent aircraft in it then I'll be bi-sim...

People that are writing it off as a scenery simulator though are pretty foolish, given 3rd party devs appear to be flocking to it..

 

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I purshased MSFS 2020 last night and got refund thru steam today.. I will stick with P3DV5 for at least another year before giving FS 20 another shot.   

I must admit that until I am sure where MSFS is going I won't be investing in any third party content for quite some time.

13 minutes ago, GSalden said:

Then those others must have seen it wrong according to you and them posting that are not helping anyone .... 

Mmmm...🤔

The game is happy to have at least six cores. That was deducted already in the alpha/beta (2 weeks...) programme and further confirmed by Tom's Hardware CPU guide.

Proclaiming that "MSFS can only use 4 cores" is again a just a misinformed statement. Do you even own  the game and have atleast taken your time to validate your thesis?

I use both sims for different reasons, and they both give me joy. Shoot me.

 

17 minutes ago, Gazzareth said:

People that are writing it off as a scenery simulator though are pretty foolish, given 3rd party devs appear to be flocking to it..

Did I ever tell you about the soup that my Mother used to make. The whole family loved it.

I see the next sim war has started already...

1 hour ago, RamonB said:

So.. You are a fan* of MSFS, that is fine. Enjoy Your Scenery Simulator.
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Please don't start this passive-aggressive Scenery Simulator thing again, it thankfully stopped months ago. It has issues because it was released early, but it's fully capable of being a simulator and it is. It's showing rough edges right now but it give some more time as initially planned. Sure, it's disappointing that it was released early, but it will only get better.

As for the rest of your post, I'm seeing a lot of complaints all over the community about the included default aircraft. Yes, there are bugs which need to be fixed and fine-tuned. But I think people are losing perspective here. These are still default aircraft and default aircraft have never been of much quality in any simulator (that's not to say it's okay to release low quality stuff, whatever simulator). The thing is, with the bugs fixed and more tuning done, as it likely would have been the case now if it had been kept in development a few months longer as initially planned, these default aircraft are of significantly more quality than those in any other sims before. Why not see the improvement?

That said, if it were not an actual simulator and just a Scenery Simulator, I don't think every third party developer would be throwing resources at MSFS right now... you're getting all your favorite airports and "study-level"-aircraft for MSFS.

51 minutes ago, shivers9 said:

MS Fanboi's please follow this link https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/863-microsoft-flight-simulator-2020/ 

We just don't care here..

The thread is literally comparing P3D v5 and MSFS but we are not allowed to talk about MSFS?

Edited August 25, 20205 yr by threegreen

I just don't get it. I love P3D and I love MSFS. In P3D I can do a very complex flight with FSL A320, including calculations, FMS programming, various approaches (RNAV, ILS, VOR, take your pick), and in MSFS I can take off from LOWZ in TBM, not caring about autopilot or procedures, and just enjoy the view. Basic AP functionality is here, so I can put it into AP and pan around... it's enough for now.

10 minutes ago, threegreen said:

The thread is literally comparing P3D v5 and MSFS but we are not allowed to talk about MSFS?

You have been around a long time. I think you know the difference here. 

3 minutes ago, SimonC said:

I just don't get it. I love P3D and I love MSFS.

Neither do I. 'My toy is better than your toy' has been the theme of large parts of the community for some years now. But I don't remember it being like this some ten years ago.

15 minutes ago, threegreen said:

I see the next sim war has started already...

It doesn't have to.  The OP made a valid statement in the P3D forums.

But; as we were happily cruising here in the P3D forums, out of nowhere someone starts blasting OUR simulator of choice whilst trying to shove us with the goodness of MSFS.
There is no question MSFS has the potential to become a great simulator, but I have said many times: It is not there yet.

Edited August 25, 20205 yr by RamonB

1 hour ago, kingm56 said:

...  P3D default ...

And thats a big mistake. Why should i compare MSFS to default P3D?

I compare it to my P3D sim with the addons i use, and many other P3D users does that to. Comparing MSFS to P3D it is a better scenery, but only autogenwise. And that it is only if you have a fast internet connection. The default airports are a bit better having more autogen (!) buildings, nothing more.

Altogether MSFS is really just MEH and will need way more time and a load full addons until it will come close to my P3D installation.

2 minutes ago, RamonB said:

It doesn't have to.  The OP made a valid statement.
But; as we were happily cruising here in the P3D forums, out of nowhere someone starts blasting OUR simulator of choice whilst trying to shove us with the goodness of MSFS.
There is no question MSFS has the potential to become a great simulator, but I have said many times: It is not there yet.

No one said the OP's statement isn't valid though. I'm still flying P3D v5 myself because of the airliners and VR. But given the thread title and topic it's about MSFS too so I fail to see why things are boiling up again.

I use Prepar3d still for my home cockpit but when I can switch will immediately switch to MSFS. But let’s see what LM can come up with when they release 5.1. 

7 minutes ago, JoeFackel said:

And thats a big mistake. Why should i compare MSFS to default P3D?

How is it a mistake though? It's fair to compare MSFS to a fully addon-stuffed P3D installation to compare your P3D experience to the current MSFS experience. But it's just as valid to compare both simulators in their vanilla form to compare what either simulator gives you out of the box without any further investment.

18 minutes ago, shivers9 said:

I think you know the difference here. 

Apparently I don't. The OP said his P3D experience was enjoyable after trying out MSFS. Some others said it was the opposite for them. What's the issue?