Hi all.We all knew there would be a few bugs and faults in the new Sim, they were to be expected and will be rectified soon, we all hope. But for a lot of us who had built our PC to run all the modern games and programs,we are no better off than we were 12 months ago and for me

Hi.I would recommend that you return the product, if you are not satisfied. For the first time since I started simming, for me was 1976, I did not purchase a new sim as soon as it became available. I went by my local Best Buy over the weekend and the shelf was full of FSX, the salesperson tells me that very few are being sold? Many people are unhappy and cannot see, and understand the requirements like SP2, and on line activation / registration, they try to make it as invisible as they can. A friend of mine bought it and calls me up, I cannot install it? I asked him if he knew about the requirements, he said he did not see on the box? It must be very small letters, because he passed his Second class Medical fine, and last I checked he was able to read and speak English, at least American English. Where he bought it they would not take it back, now he is looking into sending it back to MS. I would like to know who is willing to pay for all the time that some of these people are wasting going through this trash? Just take it back. There is nothing in the new version that will benefit the a real world pilot

Sales at the Best Buy where I live are sluggish from when I asked them about it. They have it on the bottom shelf almost as an after thought. Guy says for every 5 they sell, at least 2 come back with people wanting there money back.

Hi Do not get me wrong,I think fsx is very good, and with my pc speck I can run it stable with all sliders at 50%.But as I have had no luck with Microsoft flight sim since I got my first SLI pc back in July 2005.When news of FSX came out we were led to beleve it would be optimized for dual core, sli,and Vista this is a fact and I dont propose to try and find the post that stated it.I decided to upgrade to run all currant programs,and I feel let down with microsoft.Best regards.Rex.

totally agree with the op, its all such a shame, this was the big chance for flight sim to show what can be done, dx10, vista dont make me laugh if you cant be bothered to program sli or for dual core, I dont think dx10 is going to be anything more than another load of photo shopped marketing hype.I would also like to add that I am pleasantly surprised by the moderators of this forum, I expected any anti fsx posts to be quashed straight away, if this approach continues we may actually end up with an improved product sometime.

Makes me wonder what sort of feedback the beta testers gave Aces. I wonder how they even ran it themselves.

>Makes me wonder what sort of feedback the beta testers gave>Aces. I wonder how they even ran it themselves.Exactly...

Sorry - double post.

Listen man, I feel your pain. There are many disappointed people out there....I would venture to say most of us.That being said, it's getting real tiresome seeing every other thread amounting to little more than FSX/Microsoft-bashing. No wonder the threads in this forum move so fast down the pages - it's one complaint after another and not only that, it's the SAME complaint! Why start new threads saying the same things over and over again?It would be more understandable to me if people were pointing out various bugs and problems with the software, but it's the EXACT same story...."My top of the line machine can't run this game well...."OR, more humorously,"My dinosaur of a computer can't run this game well...."I do not have a ridiculously powerful PC by any stretch of the imagination. I have a single-core P4 3.4Ghz, 1GB of RAM, and a GeForce6600 256 MB card (which is very capable but still middle of the road). Out of the box, my FPS in FSX was a cruel joke at best. However I've spent the last several weeks reading these forums daily, listening to suggestions, and tweaking the heck out of FSX until I was finally able to strike an acceptable balance between eye candy and playability. Sure, I can't hit all my sliders to the max, but FS9 was the same way and I'm not some delusional egomaniac who thinks he should be able to max this sim's graphics on a relatively modest system.I'm just as disappointed as everyone else, but I'm learning to live with FSX. As a matter of fact, even with so many compromises I'm beginning to love it, and see the potential FSX has before many shareware and 3rd party addons have even begun to show up.How about we create one mega "My FPS Sux!" thread that everyone could chime in on? Better yet, how about AVSIM creates an entirely separate "FPS b*tching" forum? That way, those of us who are able to live with FSX at whatever performance level we've managed to achieve can go back to discussing this hobby and sharing ideas on making it better without having to wade through pages and pages of, forgive me, incessant and unproductive whining. I haven't seen this much childlike behavior since I made the mistake of looking up a question on an XBox360 forum. However at least those people had an excuse - most of them WERE children.Sorry for the rant folks. I'm usually a very reasonable and patient guy, but this is truly getting on my nerves. If you (the collective "you", not the original poster) are not happy with FSX or cannot get it to run well on your PC, please either pack it up and return it (MS offers a 45-day refund policy), or go stuff your complaints and spend some time tweaking it like the other 98% percent of us.GG

Good post GG, the rest if it... :-rollRegards, MichaelKDFW

Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe nForce4 SLI-x16 / AMD

GG"However I've spent the last several weeks reading these forums daily, listening to suggestions, and tweaking the heck out of FSX until I was finally able to strike an acceptable balance between eye candy and playability"I guess the real point might be why should you have to?It seems to me that MS/ACES really screwed the pooch on FSX and you might let others rant as they have the same right to do so as you do.If the sim is running well for you that`s fine so if the forums get to be too much for you you might just want to go fly.Pete

>Makes me wonder what sort of feedback the beta testers gave>Aces. I wonder how they even ran it themselves.I was a beta tester and there was no way to pass along bug info. It was a beta test in name only.

>The resons given by Microsoft that FXS is not optimized to run>in SLI is because Simers use Multiple monitors,and we all know>that Nvidia and ATI cannot sort that one out, all simers have to do to use multiple moniter is to de select SLI.What is your source from Microsoft with this?I was under the understanding that SLI isn't "optimized" for flight simulator use simply due to the method of screen rendering. FS is limited by the accurate generation of polygons from the CPU, not the accurate and speedy drawing of the polys through the GPU. SLI/Crossfire "support" has proven useful in the AA/AS filtering, but that does little to the overall framerate. (Ideas culled from Steve Lacey's blog)>Dual core they would not have had time to debug FSX if they>had optimized for Dual core CPU's.Indeed - a broader base for dual core support would have required a significant REwrite of the underlying FS code. This is not a small task, and would have either extended the release date of the simulator many months (perhaps a few more years) into the future. (culled from tdragger's blog)>There is no doubt they have produced a very good sim, but the>lame excuses they have given for SLI & X2 Is not acceptable.Seems acceptable to me. The SLI issues are issues with the architecture of this particular game (geometry and CPU oriented, not poly fill oriented), and the dual core issues are VERY simple and straightforward business decisions weighed against the technical demands of the change. To each their own, I guess...-Greg

If that's true, then it's pretty remarkable how with such an open-ended and complex sim as FSX, there are so few actual gameplay bugs.I'm sure there are internal testing teams. Even much smaller development houses recruit them before opening up public betas. You probably didn't have a method for reporting bugs because they had enough internal participants (MS is a huge company) and didn't need that kind of input from the general public.

"Makes me wonder what sort of feedback the beta testers gave Aces. I wonder how they even ran it themselves."These types of posts really get me peeved. If you are indeed a DBA/Systems Analyst, you know how beta's work and you also know a beta tester worth his/her bona fides won't respond to your bait and loaded comment.Look at FS9, look at FS2002 and every release before and you see the same threads and the same loaded questions. Every Sim has its growing pains, but don't disrespect those who volunteered their time to work with the vendor (Microsoft) to deliver a product. I've been doing professional QA and product support for two decades now, and even in that context not all of my suggestions are implemented in our builds. Those who volunteer their time, and get paid "NADA" deserve more than such comments. They don't get paid for your B.S. assuming you really know how software development works. -John