color matching needs to be done, basically just taking some blue out of the textures. But a good start.

What most people miss though is setting up LODs to not choke our rigs. I hope the guy who does the Monaco addon is setting up LODs. Otherwise the model will only load in 3 feet in front of you and you GPU will start smoking.

9 minutes ago, Hoppala29 said:

 It's not like we are all in the US.

And neither is the person who created the scenery....he happens to be from your country.

Maybe its a Bavarian thing to criticize everything regardless of its merit, intent, or contribution effort?  Naw....for me to say that would make me the very type of person you're describing. 🙂

Like I described earlier....theoretically.....EVERYTHING can be improved upon.....you probably feel as though you're being attacked because others are viewing your threshold of perfection a bit high, and expressing your genuine concern that this effort is not up to your standards in a public forum is receiving unwanted attention.

 

12 minutes ago, Hoppala29 said:

I'm not talking about OP's room for improvement but rather, getting the google images fitting in the current sim better overall (not just this scenary).

This statement, placed in your first post, would have greatly reduced the possibility of folks here misunderstanding the intent of your post.  As advanced as forum technology has come over the years....it still has not given us the ability to read the intent from people's words.  Sure, there are emoji's...but heck...they are so over-used these days to the point of being useless for that purpose, don't you think? 😉🙄 (see what I did there?)🙂 

They way I handle this is to 1st (and foremost), acknowledge the contributor's effort, and then add the very useful word....."However", followed with what you see as shortcomings to the process, or even the contributor's efforts....but being tactful will almost always ensure that you won't be "attacked" when your comments are not mainstream.

Believe me I'm not attacking you ....and seeing you are 20 posts into your stay here at Avsim, I hope to see you and other new folks contribute greatly to a hobby that has given me decades of enjoyment. 

22 hours ago, omarsmak30 said:

Hello folks, 

 

This is my first time creating scenery in MSFS. I have imported some of the important landmarks city of Dusseldorf in Germany from Google Maps into MSFS. 

Thanks a lot for your contribution. Keep it up!

For fun, I fired up P3Dv5 with ORBX Germany North and South installed, tried to re-create the same view as my original screenshot:

Please don't do that, omarsmak30. My eyes will take weeks to recover

14 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

For fun, I fired up P3Dv5 with ORBX Germany North and South installed, tried to re-create the same view as my original screenshot:

 

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...not a good idea.

You are risking a visit from men in black suits, and similar to the famous "MIB" who protect us from bad aliens, these men from the commercial development world also have neuro-lizers, and will "Flashy-thingy" you back to before you had this silly notion that a mere mortal like yourself can dabble in the dark world of scenery design/enhancement. 🤣

🤣🤣 I know! I was like ?##@#?, how naive we were buying a lot of addons worth $$$ for this kind of quality, and we were happy with it indeed despite the quality! Really, Thank you Microsoft and Asobo for giving us this platform. Also thank you Google for the missing 3D Maps data 😃 . Of course thank you community for providing us with tools like Blender2MSFS .. etc to have such thing possible!

8 hours ago, captain420 said:

I would love to do something like this for cities in Asia! Like Bangkok, Ho Chi Minh City, Da Nang, Hanoi, Phuket, Seoul, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Okinawa, Manila

Hey Aaron,

After may years painting planes in flightsim, I have a new-found curiosity in sim design (or enhancement more accurately).  There are so many great painters now, I doubt I'll even be missed (but time and health is a contributing factor to my departure from painting anyway).

I've always agreed with your point of Asia being under-represented in the sim world, and I may try to dabble in this new medium to see if I can make a dent in that area.  Still way to early to tell, but I'll start gathering the tools, and watching vids and see if it grabs me like aircraft painting did almost 18 years ago.

I hope you're thinking the same thing and grabbing the resources needed to do this too. 😉

 

31 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

For fun, I fired up P3Dv5 with ORBX Germany North and South installed, tried to re-create the same view as my original screenshot:

We probably used to think this is likely the best we can get for the next 20 years, until MS/Asobo showed off their MSFS out of nowhere.

It's truly mind blowing to really appreciate how magnificent MSFS is. It has many rough edges when we talk about covering the whole earth at high quality, but what we got is already a miracle. 

3 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

🤣🤣 I know! I was like ?##@#?, how naive we were buying a lot of addons worth $$$ for this kind of quality, and we were happy with it indeed despite the quality! Really, Thank you Microsoft and Asobo for giving us this platform. Also thank you Google for the missing 3D Maps data 😃 . Of course thank you community for providing us with tools like Blender2MSFS .. etc to have such thing possible!

I would not consider us naive, but rather "enthusiastic" that we had companies giving us these updated scenery areas in such a small, niche market such is flight simulation.

The quality of them is all we knew up to the release of MSFS.  I don't think we can honestly compare what you can do with P3D/FSX at any expertise level against what we've been given in MSFS.  Its a simple matter of an ancient graphics engine vs today's technology.

Its time for everyone, including even the most die-hard P3D/FSX simmer to accept that when comparing the 2 sims visually, there is no doubt which is clearly superior. 
So it's said....yes...MSFS has a long way to go to get the aircraft up to P3D/FSX fidelity....but that is coming.  I know we didn't have PMDG aircraft in FSX the first few weeks it was out. 😉

As for you're thanking the companies that have brought this to our community, I think we need a collective thanks from everyone enjoying this sim!

 

31 minutes ago, Steve Dra said:

After may years painting planes in flightsim, I have a new-found curiosity in sim design (or enhancement more accurately).  There are so many great painters now, I doubt I'll even be missed (but time and health is a contributing factor to my departure from painting anyway).

I've always agreed with your point of Asia being under-represented in the sim world, and I may try to dabble in this new medium to see if I can make a dent in that area.  Still way to early to tell, but I'll start gathering the tools, and watching vids and see if it grabs me like aircraft painting did almost 18 years ago.

I hope it does grab you.

If you produce scenic results anything like the standard of your amazing repaints, it will be a great contribution to the new sim.

52 minutes ago, FlyIce said:

We probably used to think this is likely the best we can get for the next 20 years, until MS/Asobo showed off their MSFS out of nowhere.

I have never thought that landclass scenery (even from ORBx) was the best that we could get. Not by a long shot. It's why I have been using photoscenery exclusively for the past twenty years.

1 hour ago, Steve Dra said:

After may years painting planes in flightsim, I have a new-found curiosity in sim design (or enhancement more accurately).  There are so many great painters now, I doubt I'll even be missed (but time and health is a contributing factor to my departure from painting anyway).

Well Steve, I know I've enjoyed the fruits of your labor. The main advantage of painting for FS is you don't have to risk brain damage from the fumes, and the paint dries instantly so there's no danger of embedded dirt or fingerprints! 

1 hour ago, Steve Dra said:

Hey Aaron,

After may years painting planes in flightsim, I have a new-found curiosity in sim design (or enhancement more accurately).  There are so many great painters now, I doubt I'll even be missed (but time and health is a contributing factor to my departure from painting anyway).

I've always agreed with your point of Asia being under-represented in the sim world, and I may try to dabble in this new medium to see if I can make a dent in that area.  Still way to early to tell, but I'll start gathering the tools, and watching vids and see if it grabs me like aircraft painting did almost 18 years ago.

I hope you're thinking the same thing and grabbing the resources needed to do this too. 😉

 

Steve, thanks for your dedication and contribution to the community. It is greatly appreciated. I am definitely interested of getting my hands dirty and seeing what I can do. A community wide effort on slowly making the world a more visual and better place to fly has always been an interest of mines. I believe with a lot of people on board, we can make this world even better. Asobo has already given us a great foundation to work on. I just gotta watch some tutorials and give it a go. I see there's already a website with people already submitting a lot of cool landmarks from all over the world! This is incredible!

52 minutes ago, n4gix said:

don't have to risk brain damage from the fumes

Hehe....virtual paint fumes are just as damaging, just in a different way.  I know this because I used to be sane. 🙂  And besides....even though the paint dries instantly, the fact you can easily go back and "touch-up" with none of the same risks that real painting has with touch-ups, it leads the virtual painter to almost never being happy with how it looks, which leads to hours upon hours of extra time in the chair in front of the canvas....Eye strain is a real condition with painters....that along with the strain on the wrist and hand tendons in fact poses the real danger that I eluded to when mentioning "health".  I sadly suffer from all of them, and that, along with my advanced "mileage" (Its not the age of 58 that makes me feel old...its that danm mileage!) 🤣

I'm glad you've enjoyed my paints!  Seeing others enjoy your work is to me, one of the greatest forms of satisfaction.  Was definitely a big motivator in my painting "career". 

1 hour ago, Biggles2010 said:

I hope it does grab you.

If you produce scenic results anything like the standard of your amazing repaints, it will be a great contribution to the new sim.

Aww shucks...thanks.  Painting planes was certainly a progressive skill that only got better with time and projects under your belt...if you took constructive criticism how it was intended, left your ego at the door, and learned from each livery you pushed out the door. 

While I enjoyed all the comments I received on my paints over the years...the most poignant was "Just paint to the level of detail you'd fly yourself".  That statement is almost self-fulfilling...as I constantly raised the bar on what "I" wanted to fly in the sim, and when I felt the paint was at that point...I put the brush down and released it.
After a few dozen paints, I started to narrow down what was really important for me to "see" in the sim as I panned around the plane.  That then became my baseline...and I evaluated all post-release comments on a few factors to decide if I was going to try to add them to an existing paint.

• Can I actually do it?  Funny when you get into painting, you learn the things that are easy, things that are hard, and things that just can't be done.  If the request fell into the latter category, I let the requestor know.  Should they insist it can be done, I'd advise them that if it can be done...I didn't know how and if they did the leg work to find the way to do it and present it to me, I'd give it a shot if I felt it would significantly enhance the look of the paint.  Note: painting the filament inside a landing light bulb is not impossible, or even that hard....just an irreverent level of detail...request denied 🙂
• Level of effort vs outcome - see painting a filament above. 🤣
• Attitude of requestor - as much as I checked my ego at the door when reviewing comments of my paints, I am human and tend to pay less attention to rudeness and especially arrogance.  You may find this hard to believe, but there are some simmers out there who pretty much demand that freeware artists bend to their every whim, lest we incur the wrath of their wicked keyboard! 🙄  Such is life and you can't fix that behavior in some, but believe me it impacts anyone with human emotions.  Now, if they are flat out right, and I missed something glaring and they pointed it out in their own special way, I'd go back and fix it.  Wrong is wrong....no matter who brings it to your attention.

I hope if I take on this intriguing new craft of scenery enhancement, I have the same interest and motivation I've had with painting.  Still way to early to tell...and time is not my friend. 😞

 

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