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Flight factor A320 or Fslabs A320 (2020)

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Hello Everyone,

First of all i would like to tell i have seen every post comparing both products but all those videos and posts are 2-3 years old.

since it is being long time these products are being released and developers are constantly updating there product and time has reached both products have reached there matured level.I want to know from everyone before i invest my money in one of the platform whether to buy fslabs or flight factor A320. since i am real world pilot and just want to know which product provides good system depth,FBW,Flight dynamics and most importantly i want to practice failures for my sim check rides which eventually helpful to me.

I have also seen the post where in flight factor a320 after engine fail on takeoff not showing blue beta target and giving wrong rudder indication in opposite direction since values are not implemented by developers for it, Just want to know this is resolved or still persist.

Thanks:)

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Well.

I don't have the FSLABS version, but I have the ToLiss and the FlightFactor one. My FF one is put in the hangar more or less indefinitely. The FF one is probably the worst running plane I have and I feel the pace of development is almost glacial. In the current state I can't really recommend it.

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I hope you are aware that the FSlabs A320 does not run on the new Microsoft Flight Simulator? Because you wrote (2020) in your topic title?

I don´t have any A320 for X-Plane (I hate flying the thing in real life enough already), but from what I heard the FlightFactor A320 may have the greater fidelity for the FMGC and FCU functionality, yet it does not simulate any failures or abnormal operation. Which would pretty much rule out "practicing" for a simulator checkride.

I have no idea how the ToLiss A320 does with regard to system simulation, my guess would be that the system depth is "just deep enough that the average X-Plane user can´t tell whats wrong with it". The real A320 is incredibly complex and an ever-changing target with constant FWC and other software updates, it is hard enough for the "real" simulators to stay abreast. Plus they keep finding new stuff that doesn´t work all the time (OEB), so I would say "practicing" for a simuator checkride with a desktop rendition of the A320 is probably counterproductive.

The FSlabs A320 is supposed to be the pinnacle of them all, but you would have to get FSX or P3D to run it.

Cheers, Jan

 

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regarding toliss i read there are lot of bugs and system functioning to be solved by the developer,

regarding flight factor yes they have failures to simulate but system depth i have no idea.

and yes i am not talking about msfs 2020:)

the question is prepar3d or xplane depend on what i buy fslabs or flight factor

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26 minutes ago, miloe_high02 said:

regarding toliss i read there are lot of bugs and system functioning to be solved by the developer,

 

What bugs are you talking about? It's one of the best airliners in X-Plane 11.

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Not really sure what's worse here.. the OP asking to compare two planes that are for different platforms, or the answers he's getting, Some mentioned yet others, and some even throwing MS flight sim in the mix for God know what reason.... bizarro world..

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15 hours ago, miloe_high02 said:

regarding toliss i read there are lot of bugs and system functioning to be solved by the developer,

regarding flight factor yes they have failures to simulate but system depth i have no idea.

and yes i am not talking about msfs 2020:)

the question is prepar3d or xplane depend on what i buy fslabs or flight factor

 

if you have experience on any of the two between flight factor and toliss you can share with us:)

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I have the Toliss 319 but not the Flight Factor 320. Go check out V1-Simulations on You Tube. He is a real world Airbus captain and he has many videos on both the Toliss and Flight Factor airbuses. Remember Toliss has the 319 & 321. Flight Factor has the 320.

However the general consensus is the FS Labs planes offer the most complete Airbus simulation. They are the most expensive and of course will require P3D instead of X-Plane 11. There is a You Tuber named Blackbox711 that has a lot of videos of the FS Labs planes and he is a real world airbus pilot too.

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I have the Toliss A319& 321. I find they work flawlessly. FMS is excellent. As to the others for X-P 11 I can't comment as I don't have them. Getting back to the Toliss I would recommend it.

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I have checked the v1 simulation channel videos which are 1 or 2 years old ,though personally by the comments and reviews,Now i feel flight factor was superior in terms of cockpit textures and system simulation depth, but toliss developers are always listening to buyers feedback and taking into account getting there game ahead with every update and making airbus feel similarly as close as real one in terms of system depth also regarding sim platform i see in many videos regarding the flight dynamics xplane is way better than prepar3d.

what you guys comment regarding system simulation depth in flight factor,toliss or fslabs(if i consider prepar3d).

 

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I have all of the above mentioned buses - just to mention how professional I find v1-simulation is - he points out the positives in the repective products.

Whilst I am not an expert I am pretty sure that you will find the most system depth on the FSLabs, followed by FF then ToLiss. 

Then my satisfaction as a humble simmer - ToLiss (with excellent support), FSLabs (with good support), FF.

Then for the loading i.e. ability to use without additional ground services FF, FSLabs, ToLiss.

You will need to make your own decission - I would not part with of any of them!

Summary - X-Plane go for ToLiss, Prepar3d go for FSLabs.

 


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If you are going to be flying the real aircraft, and practicing procedures and failures, then the FSL is the one you want. It is by far the most complete and realistic desktop emulation of an A320.

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Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

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Thank you everyone for the help in deciding which one to go for

i brought prepar3d v5 and fslabs, indeed its an ultimate solution to achieve what i wanted:)

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On 9/10/2020 at 8:13 PM, miloe_high02 said:

regarding flight factor yes they have failures to simulate but system depth i have no idea.

It's actually the deepest simulated airliner ever made for X-Plane, even if an average user won't notice any difference with the Toliss. But it goes 1 step more in depth, there are amazing small details coming from the simulation of every electric-signal and not only and emulation of the systems themselves. Thats why it is also very heavy on performance. And yes it has failures simulated but some aren't 100% correct. This plane had the potential to equal the FSLabs but isn't really being developped anymore. That's very sad...

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Franz Rhynfelder

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