September 13, 20205 yr 16 minutes ago, n4gix said: So, you guys preferred the S L O W, laconic and extremely robotic FSX/P3D ATC? Editvoicepak would speed it up until it was somewhat faster, but not quite natural even so, all IMHO of course. The server-based TTS voices are great, but TTS voices were available with add-ons in FSX and P3d. The real problem is the ATC logic, which supposedly was improved by adding SIDs and STARs. That's a great addition, but Asobo also added a lot of quirks and glitches, so we're really no better off than having the default FSX/P3d ATC.
September 13, 20205 yr I must admit - I've flown about 30 hours in MSFS and I've yet to interface with the built-in ATC. No plans to do so for the immediate future. It's too unrealistic/ random/ chaotic and procedurally erroneous to be of any value whatsoever in augmenting my flights in the sim. Edited September 13, 20205 yr by Will Fly For Cheese
September 13, 20205 yr Moderator 5 minutes ago, Will Fly For Cheese said: I must admit - I've flown about 30 hours in MSFS and I've yet to interface with the built-in ATC. If you've not used it at all, how can you make such a judgement? Asking for a friend. Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
September 13, 20205 yr Just now, n4gix said: If you've not used it at all, how can you make such a judgement? Asking for a friend. Umm, tell your friend that he/she has caught me with my pants down on that one. Watched a bunch of YouTubes - including the ASOBO one where it was blinking obvious it was broke. RT is a boring part of flying - you're there to fly right? - not talk on the radio. Getting RT procedure 100% correct is so important so that it's just there; straight off the mark. The sim has huge opportunities to teach us bad habits that'll find us out real world. That's why I prefer to fly without it. Vatsim? - that's a different matter - sometimes great - especially when Oliver is controlling EGLL - but most of the time - awful. I'd prefer not to do it at all. Indeed, it's nice not to have to do it.
September 13, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, Will Fly For Cheese said: The primary purpose of Flight Following is Traffic Alerts. Real World and Sim World. And navigating through controlled class airspace. Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
September 13, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, fppilot said: And navigating through controlled class airspace. Indeed, if you request a transit through it. With the airspace over southern England right now - with the battles for airspace grabs such as they are - it's worth the detour around - just to save the RT.
September 13, 20205 yr Author 1 hour ago, Will Fly For Cheese said: No plans to do so for the immediate future. It's too unrealistic/ random/ chaotic and procedurally erroneous to be of any value whatsoever in augmenting my flights in the sim. Agree! For the moments its better to have some "live atc" run in the background just for the atmosphere^^ Intel i9-13900K | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master | RTX4090 | 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-6000 | Be quiet! Pure Loop 2 FX AiO | Win 11
September 13, 20205 yr 23 minutes ago, ThomseN_inc said: Agree! For the moments its better to have some "live atc" run in the background just for the atmosphere^^ Funny... I was just going to post this. I was doing this just last night and for me, it's just more fun right now. The only problem I've found is that with the reduction in air traffic, some frequencies that I know to be correct for the flight can be pretty quiet. I have to search for a busier one and turn it down enough to not here the pilot check in with "Cleveland Center" when I'm out in Salt Lake Center airspace. AMD 7800X3D, RTX 4090, 42" LG C3 OLED 4K TV/Monitor
September 13, 20205 yr The purpose is to hear all the airliners be told they are 20000ft above their assigned altitude. James
September 13, 20205 yr 8 hours ago, kt069 said: Hi, Pilot2atc is a really good and ready add-on for atc which is already working with MFS2020 via FSUIPC7. Moving map, speech recognition, flight planning, regional atc controllers accent,etc. are the key functions. You can try it for freee, as well. Happy flying. Just curious, does Pilot2atc recognize and/or direct AI traffic?
September 14, 20205 yr 9 hours ago, mikeklimek said: Just curious, does Pilot2atc recognize and/or direct AI traffic? Yes, it recognizes all of them. AI, multiplayer, Vatsim, etc traffic. And especially, it is good to track the labels of Vatsim traffic there ( because MFS2020 has no labels for Vatsim traffic, yet) You can see the ground traffic and flying traffic separately. Good add-on. And you can use it with MFS2020 + XP11 . (I do not know if P3D is also possible) You can try free from their website. Edited September 14, 20205 yr by kt069 Intel i7-9700K - AMD 7900 XT (VRAM 20GB) - 32 Gb Ram - SSD Drive - Win10 x64 - Samsung 43" 4K TV - Quest 3 VR
October 11, 20205 yr On 9/13/2020 at 1:43 PM, ThomseN_inc said: Well i know the purpose of it in real life but whats the purpose of it in MSFS other than being handed off from one controller to the next from time to time? I didn't receive a single traffic information, QNH change or anything relevant when flying cross country since release. It's just the old FSX revamped with exactly the same bugs, the 747 is unflyable as it was in FSX, cannot reach highest altitude, the flight plan navigation is awful and the co-pilot is a waste of hard drive space, most of the keyboard commands don't work for me and before anyone jumps in yes I have my keyboard set to US English, as for the Japan update typical Microsoft concentrating on scenery rathe than sorting out the flying aspects first anyway I'm not interested in 'Japan' unless I'm flying a B-17!
October 11, 20205 yr On 9/13/2020 at 5:43 AM, ThomseN_inc said: Well i know the purpose of it in real life but whats the purpose of it in MSFS other than being handed off from one controller to the next from time to time? I didn't receive a single traffic information, QNH change or anything relevant when flying cross country since release. In real life it pretty much the same as in the sim. They hand you over controller to controller , give you altimeter settings and help you with traffic avoidance. That is all Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
October 11, 20205 yr Also I think it kind of interesting to know: few years ago I went to seminar with SoCal ATC supervisor. He actually encouraged pilots to get flight following as it eases controllers mind to know of pilot intentions and helps them to stack commercial jets tighter. in reality though many ATC facilities in US are understaffed, and so sometime it’s just hard to get flight following 🙂 So guys enjoy flight following in sim because you can ! Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
October 11, 20205 yr In FS2020 one feature of flight following is they give you your barometric pressure at your exact current location. Especially useful over water where there isn't an airport with ATIS nearby (like all the hurricanes in the Gulf this season).
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