33 minutes ago, raymar said:

Hmm. My Bendix/King Nav/Com has no power, but, all the other stuff seems to be working except the Annunciator panel.

 

That has happened to me (once) as well..

8 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

That has happened to me (once) as well..

This is stranger than fiction. I quit and started up a couple of times and the stack was powered on, except the King NAV Com. Big improvement. AP worked fine.

7 minutes ago, raymar said:

This is stranger than fiction. I quit and started up a couple of times and the stack was powered on, except the King NAV Com. Big improvement. AP worked fine.

Yup, don't ask me to explain it.. maybe the NAV2 radio is powered separately in some crazy way..

On my first flight with powered avionics I did notice the Mixture works backwards. I didn’t spend much time on it because this left/right, up/down, in/out thing is a very common beta thing that slips through the cracks a lot.

When I was at Altitude and leaned the Mixture by pulling the knob back away from the panel (full rich position) the fuel flow Increased, when it should be decreasing.

The fast cruise speed appears to be really close to book - 182 to 184 knots at full power at 8,000 feet. Hopefully we can tweak that to bump it up to the  equivalent of using the Hartzell high efficiency prop now being used on the newer Ovation models with the same engine and same hp. (190 knots).

The climb profile is very aggressive and I like that. The AP functions with the remote Altitude Selector worked great. You just have to spend some time getting to know what each push button does and how to select more or less and up and down for the VS and for your Altitude.

There is a good information sheet included for the King Bendix Flight System Pilot Guide that everyone needs to spend some serious time learning how to properly use the flight director system. (pdf online download KFC-150 - the full booklet is a little hard to find). You want the one with pages and pages of example approaches with diagrams - maybe ~150 pages.

I got credit for my first night landing in the MFS Logbook. ha.

We could use better rheostats for the cabin and panel lights - The  existing one needs a few more increments to get the lighting just right.

My first impression, well my second actually, is this should be an excellent cross country SEL and a great single pilot IFR plane. We all need to push for the Reality XP and Flight1 GTNs.

Ray

 

 

 

Well I just hope that some of the continual Carenado bashing 'sim-snobs' (my new word 😁) take a serious look at this, as I am enjoying every minute of it.

Of course, the external model is superb as usual from Carenado, but also...  The way it flies, and the avionics/systems... Are they really as bad as some people make out?

There are a few things I would like tweaked of course as with any aircraft: -

1.  As mentioned by Raymar above, a finer tuning for the cockpit lights.

2.  Are the actual light switches themselves lit up? (Overhead).  I couldn't find them in the dark.

3.  As others have said, the pitch trim needs to be finer as well. I am having to trim on power as well at the moment to get it to completely level on occasions. (maybe that's realistic sometimes?)

4.  Is it possible to reassign the joystick top hat left and right views to just like the other aircraft, rather than the wing tank and over the shoulder view?

 

Thanks for any suggestions.  I am enjoying the Ovation so much, I am willing to dabble in the config files if I have to, just to tweak it to my liking.  👍

PS. not related to the Ovation, but as I was on taxi past the hangars at Zell-Am-See (payware airport), a hangar opened and a black AS350 helicopter was pushed out on a trolley by a fork lift truck.  The little details like this by developers as well as in the sim itself never fail to amaze me!

 

3 hours ago, raymar said:

When I was at Altitude and leaned the Mixture by pulling the knob back away from the panel (full rich position) the fuel flow Increased, when it should be decreasing.

I think the fuel flow thing has been covered, and I am not sure it is a bug.  Apparently (I am not an expert in this and didn't read it in depth) there are two instruments that cover it in the Ovation; one of them is the correct flow, the other is indicating something else.  I will try to find the thread for you - it may be on another site...

Edit:  Found it!  Bottom of page 15 in this thread actually! 😁  Seems to be an unusual type of instrument people aren't familiar with.

Edited September 21, 20205 yr by bobcat999
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One more "is it just me" issue... the rudder trim, when mapping to a joystick button, left is right... right is left. It is OK on the panel switch but when mapping it to the Honeycomb it is backwards. 

11 minutes ago, haskell said:

One more "is it just me" issue... the rudder trim, when mapping to a joystick button, left is right... right is left. It is OK on the panel switch but when mapping it to the Honeycomb it is backwards. 

Correct. 👍  Reported by others also -  a bug to be corrected.

1 hour ago, bobcat999 said:

Well I just hope that some of the continual Carenado bashing 'sim-snobs' (my new word 😁) take a serious look at this, as I am enjoying every minute of it.

Of course, the external model is superb as usual from Carenado, but also...  The way it flies, and the avionics/systems... Are they really as bad as some people make out?

There are a few things I would like tweaked of course as with any aircraft: -

1.  As mentioned by Raymar above, a finer tuning for the cockpit lights.

2.  Are the actual light switches themselves lit up? (Overhead).  I couldn't find them in the dark.

3.  As others have said, the pitch trim needs to be finer as well. I am having to trim on power as well at the moment to get it to completely level on occasions. (maybe that's realistic sometimes?)

4.  Is it possible to reassign the joystick top hat left and right views to just like the other aircraft, rather than the wing tank and over the shoulder view?

 

Thanks for any suggestions.  I am enjoying the Ovation so much, I am willing to dabble in the config files if I have to, just to tweak it to my liking.  👍

PS. not related to the Ovation, but as I was on taxi past the hangars at Zell-Am-See (payware airport), a hangar opened and a black AS350 helicopter was pushed out on a trolley by a fork lift truck.  The little details like this by developers as well as in the sim itself never fail to amaze me!

 

Sure you can reassign the top hat. I am not happy with mine and keep searching for some secret post someplace on how to make it work like FSX but I am still looking.  I had an xbox controller in the closet and took it out and plugged it in and all (most) of the views are already set for the xbox so I got lazy and started using both the xbox controller and the Saitek Controller together.  One day I will find the magic assignments. Personally, I hate the view concept of this new sim.

I am a fly outside the cockpit as much as possible kind of pilot because I like to look around the see the world as I fly.  So, I bounce in and out often and usually pick a quartering trailing view from slightly above the plane when in external view.  That is just me, but I use the hat switch views to look left, right, up, down, around, etc.

I am most unhappy with the zoom.  I use the roll button on the mouse to zoom in and out for now and I really don't like it because I have to take my hand off the flight stick to zoom in or out and that sucks.

It is fairly easy to check your assignments and keep tweaking them.  I find a lot of problems with double and triple assignments to the same keys though.  You need to search by key assignment (backwards) to clear out weird stuff that Asobo put in that make no sense to anyone but them.

Whew. I feel better now.

1 hour ago, bobcat999 said:

I think the fuel flow thing has been covered, and I am not sure it is a bug.  Apparently (I am not an expert in this and didn't read it in depth) there are two instruments that cover it in the Ovation; one of them is the correct flow, the other is indicating something else.  I will try to find the thread for you - may be on another site...

Only the top one is the fuel flow, the bottom one is selectable and one of the choices is fuel flow when selected but is intended to be used as a calculator for time and distance.  The fuel flow readings may be close, but, not exact, and may never be exact, but the leaning process is dorked up - meaning the mixture control is working in reverse to the correct method. 

It is a little more complicated than that, because the mixture control is grossly correct, but not correct for fine tuning max power and min fuel flows. duh.

Ray

Well, I am back to hit and miss with the Avionics Stack power.  I was flying around thinking I had it licked with GAC's Avionics Master 1 and 2 ON but, they just went blank.  Oh, my NavCom 2 had power on this morning for the first time but, it is dead now. duh.

Sorry if this has been brought up before, I couldn't find anything on it. How do we turn on the prop heat?

2 hours ago, raymar said:

.... the leaning process is dorked up - meaning the mixture control is working in reverse to the correct method. 

It is a little more complicated than that, because the mixture control is grossly correct, but not correct for fine tuning max power and min fuel flows. duh.

Ray

Ray, I have seen this behavior in the default planes as well.. This may again be on Asobo's list to fix, rather than Carenado, although it would be nice if Carenado could tell us what is going on!

1 hour ago, raymar said:

Well, I am back to hit and miss with the Avionics Stack power.  I was flying around thinking I had it licked with GAC's Avionics Master 1 and 2 ON but, they just went blank.  Oh, my NavCom 2 had power on this morning for the first time but, it is dead now. duh.

When they go blank, can you bring them back by forcing the (mapped) Avionics master?

11 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

That has happened to me (once) as well..

There seems to be a temp fix.. have tried it and finally got a complete flight with no Avionics issues....

Set "Ground Aircraft Density" to 0     Yeah sounds odd, but seems to work., and no on the mooney, resetting the main Avionics switch doesn't reset it.

Graham

Edited September 21, 20205 yr by Moria15