My asobo-aircraft-longitude has no flight_model.cfg

[Dutch1 24]

Just what is says. Other aircraft has the flight_model.cfg

[KenG 492]

Because it is encrypted and hidden in the fsarchive files. 

Basically every deluxe or premium aircraft is locked down and we are stuck with Asobo's very poor rendition of the flight dynamics to include the wrong fuel load.

[Dutch1 24]

ahhhh, no wonder i'm seeing it some and not others... Thanks KenG

[KenG 492]

Yes it is very frustrating, because if Asobo does not fix it then there is no fix. Unlike the A320X and the CJ4 community fixes there can never be a community fix to the CE 700 unless someone finds a way to bypass the DRM of the fsarchive files.

[hangar 658]

30 minutes ago, KenG said:

there can never be a community fix to the CE 700 unless someone finds a way to bypass the DRM of the fsarchive files.

yep...the only way around it is to invest in 3rd party, which sort of makes buying both the deluxe and premium version a total waste if you're doing so for the aircraft alone.

They should have given rightful owners, of the deluxe and premium versions, editing access to those files.

[ryanbatc 12,775]

But but Textron said it was very realistic haha

[KenG 492]

5 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

But but Textron said it was very realistic haha

I would not want to be that Textron Test Pilot about now. 

[LRBS 943]

9 hours ago, hangar said:

yep...the only way around it is to invest in 3rd party, which sort of makes buying both the deluxe and premium version a total waste if you're doing so for the aircraft alone.

They should have given rightful owners, of the deluxe and premium versions, editing access to those files.

I have an issue even with 3rd party aircraft, actually more direct to the point  I bought carenado-aircraft-ct182t-skylane-g1000 and I was very afraid that I will encounter the same issue as to not being able to find and fine tune the flight_model.cfg.

Sure enough it is also hidden and unable to fine tune it resulting to the same bad behavior of flight characteristics, very unstable, very sensitive like all the other airplanes. 

All the other airplanes that have a flight_model.cfg available it is very easy to adjust and get very good results and a pleasure to fly.

Of course we gonna find people that don't really know how these airplanes should fly and will accept anything and claim that is perfect, unfortunately there are big issues with this situation.

I hope that other developers will have the config files available to be edited  as it is for FSX, P3D etc.

[KenG 492]

10 hours ago, killthespam said:

I have an issue even with 3rd party aircraft, actually more direct to the point  I bought carenado-aircraft-ct182t-skylane-g1000 and I was very afraid that I will encounter the same issue as to not being able to find and fine tune the flight_model.cfg.

Sure enough it is also hidden and unable to fine tune it resulting to the same bad behavior of flight characteristics, very unstable, very sensitive like all the other airplanes. 

All the other airplanes that have a flight_model.cfg available it is very easy to adjust and get very good results and a pleasure to fly.

Thank you for the report. This is something I was concerned with that any third-party airplane that enters the Marketplace would get the fsarchive treatment to its files for its DRM. 

I think the number of people who edit .cfg files is small, but the fact Asobo was able to sneak this in and nearly no one has noticed or cared is worrisome. I suspect in six or so months when the first PMDG or A2A product comes out then everyone will start to take notice.  

[RaptyrOne 1,398]

My son was fooling around on his MSFS flying the Longitude. Not flown it myself but man-o-man.... that is one seriously messed up flight model. Asobo got it about as wrong as they possibly could. Admittedly he had crash detection off but the stuff he was doing with that plane.... 80's arcade stuff. 

[KenG 492]

7 minutes ago, RaptyrOne said:

My son was fooling around on his MSFS flying the Longitude. Not flown it myself but man-o-man.... that is one seriously messed up flight model. Asobo got it about as wrong as they possibly could. Admittedly he had crash detection off but the stuff he was doing with that plane.... 80's arcade stuff. 

You nailed it on the head here. If you wanted the Longitude you had to pay $120+ to get it to discover how poor performing it is. 

1. There is ZERO documentation - This is an airplane that really needs to be flown by the books.

2. When you find some documentation (Flying Magazine and AOPA) you find the airplane does not fly by the book.

[hangar 658]

13 hours ago, killthespam said:

I have an issue even with 3rd party aircraft

 

13 hours ago, killthespam said:

Sure enough it is also hidden and unable to fine tune it

Oh?...If this turns out to be true and we are also locked out of 3rd party then this is simply unacceptable to me. It's bad enough that I've spent an extra $30+tax on Deluxe airplanes just to find out that I'm stuck with their poor flight modeling with zero recourse.

There would be no way in heck I'd be spending another dime of my money on this franchise, including 3rd party, until some big changes come along then.

Time will tell for sure...but if it's true then I don't understand how the carenado fans are able to edit the mooney files? Or maybe I just thought they were able to and really aren't?

 

Edited September 21, 2020 by hangar

[ark 1,288]

I can understand developers encrypting their model files to protect their products from piracy, that's fine, but agree configuration files involved with "flight tuning" should not be encrypted so if necessary simmers can make adjustments to fit their particular needs/equipment setup.

Al

Edited September 21, 2020 by ark

[willy647 193]

You could take a copy of one of the generic  flight_model.cfg files. You will find them in your ..\Official\OneStore folder. (asobo-aircraft-generic-xxxxxx) . Now tweak this file to your liking and place it in your ..\Community folder. (with the correct folder structure)  Whatever is in the community folder will overwrite setting from the Official folder.

 

[odourboy 1,288]

47 minutes ago, willy647 said:

You could take a copy of one of the generic  flight_model.cfg files. You will find them in your ..\Official\OneStore folder. (asobo-aircraft-generic-xxxxxx) . Now tweak this file to your liking and place it in your ..\Community folder. (with the correct folder structure)  Whatever is in the community folder will overwrite setting from the Official folder.

 

Have you been able to do this successfully with the longitude (or another premium locked aircraft)?