13 minutes ago, styckx said:

@11:40 - "While we wait for the weather to pop in here"

Is exactly why I will never buy this and glad I never fell for the marketing hype surrounding it. Who wants pop in weather in a 2020 sim?

 

 

It 'pops' in ONLY IF you set it that way. Smoothing is on by default.

1 hour ago, Ricardo41 said:

I've disabled both antivirus and firewall and I'm still asked to register the product each time I start it. What is going on?

Same. Annoying. 

4 hours ago, haskell said:

Because if you are practicing ILS approaches and expect 300 foot ceiling and 1 mile visibility, clear skies will not offer you a proper simulation. The eye-candy MSFS weather is cute but when I try to shoot an approach with 1 mile vis and I can’t see 400 feet in front of me I just wasted my flight. So I will get it because it is the only solution for somewhat accurate weather NOW. When I want pretty, dynamic weather with no regard to reality I will pick a theme in MSFS. When I want weather that closely simulates the METAR I will use REX. 

I must be missing something and am completely willing to accept that it's me who's at fault. In your counter scenario, if I wanted to practice ILS etc. under certain weather conditions, I certainly wouldn't wait days until the real METAR data happened to give me the conditions I wanted via REX. I'd use the sim's weather system to set it up at a time that's convenient for me to do the practice at my computer. It seems to me that your counter is in fact a very good argument for not getting REX. So I'm genuinely puzzled and not trying to hate (the only hate I'm detecting is the "eye candy" and "cute"). 

But maybe I've misunderstood what REX can do. Everyone's talking about its ability to give the real-time weather (which is what I was questioning). But is REX also better at fine tuning the weather conditions to user-specifications? If that's the case (and so will let you more specifically practice as you want), then why is everyone so fixated on "reality"? Or is it that the weather REX presents, whether it's real-time accurate or not, is more nuanced and so realistic? That I could understand, but it's not the claim that I've been seeing.

3 minutes ago, Bottle said:

I'd use the sim's weather system to set it up at a time that's convenient for me to do the practice at my computer.

Except that you can't. There is no visibility setting in MSFS. So your only option is looking for a place that has those conditions and flying there. Except the visibility is never correct in FS. I don't think it is accurate in REX, so we'll have to see if it's an improvement. So far, it looks closer. 

If "eye candy" and "cute" are the only hate you're seeing you're clearly missing Marcus' posts! 🤣

Anyone using this yet and your thoughts......thanks.

Just got an email from Rex I informing it is for sale.

Edited September 27, 20205 yr by dbw1

 

2 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Do you own REX Weather Force?

People keep on about REX Weather Force's USP . it's this:

To be sure, no, I don't own it, but by no means mean to criticize the work REX has done, or the unique accuracy that it offers - for a given Metar station anyway.

I've chosen not to foot the expense thus far, based on the numerous reports from numerous new REX owners that it loads the departure location's Metar GLOBALLY until (while flying) it loads the next encountered Metar GLOBALLY and so forth. It's clear from these first round of test drive YouTube reviews that REX has quite admirably achieved a more accurate representation of a given Metar's ACTUAL conditions. Admittedly, the default weather does not consistently do this. So yes, REX IS BETTER in this regard.

But...

The point of my post above is simply to point out that I prefer to have the ENTIRE REGION around the aircraft (for what appears to be a few hundred miles at that...) load at launch with "reasonably accurate" depiction of the locally occurring and regional cloud distribution over a WIDE AREA from the get go. Whether it is SPOT ON at the departure airport for that exact minute is a secondary priority. 

For instance, I flew out of Havre Montana a few days ago headed south to Jackson, Wyoming. Once in the air it was clear that a line of thunderheads with rain falling to the ground blocked my flight plan a good 20 miles to south. OAT was already approaching 0 degrees centigrade so going over them was not an option due to icing considerations. Thus I immediately, altered course to the west to skirt around them, and watched in delight out the left window for the next half hour or so, as the occasional lighting bolt emanated from them as they slid away behind me. Other knots of towering clouds appeared southward and was forced to make similar course adjustments to skirt them.

Checking the real world Doppler radar during the flight confirmed these knots of thunderheads appeared in reasonably close proximity to those I saw in the sim. This was a wonderful confirmation of this delightful experience.

So with what I understand from REX's Metar-by-Metar GLOBAL loading behavior I'd have never been able to experience this. With the Asobo/MetarBlue engine at work, once aloft, having the ENTIRE REGION around me offer the diverse and challenging conditions I was presented with that needed to be assessed, skirted around, and - from a visual standpoint, enjoyed - cannot be underestimated. Having a dynamically changing cloud matrix of storm cells interspersed with more benign clouds - that to a pretty close degree - was reflective of the actual conditions in North Central Montana at the time was pretty awesome to say the least.

To sum up, whether the micro-weather at HAVRE was PERFECTLY RENDERED for the few minutes I was there before departure isn't worth trading the diversity, dynamics, and relative accuracy of what I experienced during the REST OF THE ENTIRE FLIGHT for. Not even in the ballpark.

Edited September 27, 20205 yr by Truthan
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46 minutes ago, DJJose said:

But you don't mind waiting 10 minutes for the sim to load.

Got it!

That's not even the same thing.

40 minutes ago, haskell said:

I've disabled both antivirus and firewall and I'm still asked to register the product each time I start it. What is going on?

I am assuming this, from the error log, has something to do with it:

REX WEATHER FORCE 2020 - LOG ALERT
DATE OF LOG: Sunday, September 27, 2020 - 3:53:11 PM
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ALERT INFORMATION (PLEASE READ) - 

CLASS:         encrypt.cs

FUNCTION:     EncrypFile()

BUILD NO:     6.0.2020.0926

ALERT MESSAGE:

System.UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the path 'E:\mydocs\REX 6\REX Weather Force\profile.enc' is denied.
   at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
   at System.IO.FileStream.Init(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, Int32 rights, Boolean useRights, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES secAttrs, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy, Boolean useLongPath, Boolean checkHost)
   at System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy)
   at System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode)
   at rexwxforceapp.functions.encrypt.EncrypFile(String strInputFile, String strOutFile)

Opened a ticket. We'll see. This thing seems buggy as heck. 

34 minutes ago, haskell said:

Except that you can't. There is no visibility setting in MSFS. So your only option is looking for a place that has those conditions and flying there. Except the visibility is never correct in FS. I don't think it is accurate in REX, so we'll have to see if it's an improvement. So far, it looks closer. 

If "eye candy" and "cute" are the only hate you're seeing you're clearly missing Marcus' posts! 

I see, I didn't know visibility limits were not definable in MFS. But at least cloud bases and tops are. 
 

I thought your "hate" comment was directed at my post, not at the thread in general. I'm not hating, just trying to puzzle it all out snd why there are such strong feelings.

11 minutes ago, Bottle said:

I see, I didn't know visibility limits were not definable in MFS. But at least cloud bases and tops are. 
 

I thought your "hate" comment was directed at my post, not at the thread in general. I'm not hating, just trying to puzzle it all out snd why there are such strong feelings.

Yeah that's my biggest frustration with MSFS. No visibility setting. Makes it really hard to fly an approach to minimums if you actually wanted to simulate something specific. 

No no, not directed at anyone in particular at all. Just that people are so up in arms over a $20 add-on. We are a passionate bunch, eh? 🙂

1 hour ago, Wispy said:

Just purchased Weather Force 2020. Very disappointed and would refund if I could. The barometric pressure interpretations are all over the place. Every few minutes it's switching from roughly 29. 94 to 30.45 and back again. Autopilot is bouncing all over the place trying to keep up. 1/2 the time when doing a search to bring up a METAR nothing happens. I've added a few airports to favorites, and at first it showed some weather data, then all the data vanished except for a temp. 1/2 the time the current weather at location section is a blank. I've followed the developers installation instructions and did all the messing around with firewalls and permissions. Went back to default MSFS weather and much happier. 

Why don’t you open a ticket at the support?

1 hour ago, haskell said:

Same. Annoying. 

Please open a ticket. Posting here won’t help you

1 hour ago, styckx said:

@11:40 - "While we wait for the weather to pop in here"

Is exactly why I will never buy this and glad I never fell for the marketing hype surrounding it. Who wants pop in weather in a 2020 sim?

 

 

It has a smoothing feature, if you read all posts that are popping up in this thread. Thanks 

Edited September 27, 20205 yr by fs1

15 minutes ago, fs1 said:

Please open a ticket. Posting here won’t help you

I did. As you can see in my post 4 posts above.

I was merely sharing my experience so others would know it's not "just them."

Edited September 27, 20205 yr by haskell
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