I doubt that FSL would "unpause" development of the 64bit version of Concorde unless they have current access to a detailed and feature rich SDK. Based on what I have heard, that is most definitely not the MSFS version.

16 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I doubt that FSL would "unpause" development of the 64bit version of Concorde unless they have current access to a detailed and feature rich SDK. Based on what I have heard, that is most definitely not the MSFS version.

It's the only logical choice. Still puzzling they don't announce it.

On 9/29/2020 at 7:10 AM, Andreas Stangenes said:

Ok I'll bite... I bought this for p3d v5. Installs ok. And visuals are ok, but nothing to write home about. 

The GPS cannot be programmed in the cockpit, so you MUST, afaik, program the route prior to loading up the airplane.

It rains through the cockpit.

The HSI moves the ball in such a way that it becomes impossible to see if you are flying wings level during a climb at about 20 degrees. Cant remember back from my FSL days in fsx whether it was the ball or the bar that moved, but in any case whatever it did it did it in such a way that it was possible to fly properly in IFR conditions. This HSI from DCD does not.

The altitude knob is not possible to manipulate, so you cannot adjust your altitude.

No settings for the airplane ingame. Cannot set the aircraft to cold and dark startup by default as far as I can see from the manual. 

The manual, although it is nicely written, fails to explain how to properly use this addon. It states several times that "X system was really complicated in real life so we simplified it" but fails to provide a proper guide on what to do. Like how do I load fuel? Do i just plop an arbitrary amount of fuel in there? Manual doesnt say. 

After clicking the AP on it could fly heading mode, but the heading indicator did not turn properly with magnetic heading. I turned left, and the HI first turned right, stopped and thought about it for a moment, and THEN started to turn left. My final course was off by approx 30 degrees compared to my heading on the gps. 

After about 20 minutes my simulator crashed. Earlier today I had completed a 10 hours flight in the PMDG 744 from eddf to ksea without a problem. 

Ugh disappointing to hear.  Thanks for reporting though.

On 9/29/2020 at 2:10 PM, Andreas Stangenes said:

Ok I'll bite... I bought this for p3d v5. Installs ok. And visuals are ok, but nothing to write home about. 

The GPS cannot be programmed in the cockpit, so you MUST, afaik, program the route prior to loading up the airplane.

It rains through the cockpit.

The HSI moves the ball in such a way that it becomes impossible to see if you are flying wings level during a climb at about 20 degrees. Cant remember back from my FSL days in fsx whether it was the ball or the bar that moved, but in any case whatever it did it did it in such a way that it was possible to fly properly in IFR conditions. This HSI from DCD does not.

The altitude knob is not possible to manipulate, so you cannot adjust your altitude.

No settings for the airplane ingame. Cannot set the aircraft to cold and dark startup by default as far as I can see from the manual. 

The manual, although it is nicely written, fails to explain how to properly use this addon. It states several times that "X system was really complicated in real life so we simplified it" but fails to provide a proper guide on what to do. Like how do I load fuel? Do i just plop an arbitrary amount of fuel in there? Manual doesnt say. 

After clicking the AP on it could fly heading mode, but the heading indicator did not turn properly with magnetic heading. I turned left, and the HI first turned right, stopped and thought about it for a moment, and THEN started to turn left. My final course was off by approx 30 degrees compared to my heading on the gps. 

After about 20 minutes my simulator crashed. Earlier today I had completed a 10 hours flight in the PMDG 744 from eddf to ksea without a problem. 

Hi folks, I've been a bit slow to realise that there was a thread here about my Concorde. Some clarification needed I think. Obviously, this rendition of Concorde is absolutely not for study-level fans, and is not intended as a rival to FSLab's excellent Concorde. It's for those who wanted something more manageable, not to mention more affordable!

The GPS is there for newcomers to flight sim who want to fly Concorde but wouldn't have wanted a fully operational INS, so of course it works via the normal flight planner. The HSI does work in the normal way, however it might benefit from slightly altered textures to maintain the horizon in a steep climb.

The altitude knob is not used to alter altitude. The mouse should be placed over the digits above it, with scrolling to increase or decrease selection. The knob did have a mouse-rect left on it though which has now been removed, so that might have caused the confusion.

Some aircraft have a cold and dark option, this one doesn't, at least not yet. I'll look into how that's done and perhaps add it should enough folks want it. As for fuel, it's added in the normal way, via the in-sim fuel windows. I don't really see much need for detailing that in the manual, as the airplane loads with full fuel anyway and for the most part that's how Concorde would operate ( in-sim, not in real life ).

The stock sim autopilot always seems to "hunt" briefly for a heading, in all aircraft. I don't know why that happens, but it's not really a big deal unless you're already very close to the NAVAID you're using.

The rain through the cockpit is apparently something to do with Prepar3D's Enhanced Atmospherics setting, a new bug since the last hotfix, and nothing to do with Concorde itself.

As for the PC crash, I can't say - I can fly Concorde non-stop across the Atlantic so no issues there, but everyone's PC is different so it's very hard to diagnose.

An update is coming out next week with some bug-fixes and general enhancements. This airplane won't be loved by the hardcore simulation fans, but for the intended market it seems to be proving popular.

Cheers,

Dean, DC Designs

3 hours ago, DC1973 said:

Some clarification needed I think.

Dean, Thanks for coming to Avsim and providing your clarifications, design philosophies, and thoughts regarding your Concorde. I have a lot of respect and appreciation for developers that communicate professionally with the community as you have done. I wish more would do that. I personally prefer study level sims as I enjoy learning about the systems in the real aircraft but I understand that most others do not want to have to read a manual in order to complete a flight. I am glad to hear that your sales seem to be going well and I wish you the best of luck with your Concorde.

Ted

I for one appreciate Dean giving his thoughts. I think the DC Concorde is a great addition!

Study level no, but lots of fun aircraft aren't. I'm a real World Jet and Helo pilot, but not Concorde! Although, I did fly on her as a passenger. I like how the cabin was modeled with the inflight mach and altitude displays -- brought back some memories!

The autopilot seems really difficult to manage at first, I'm going to look more into that, but I'm using less than full fuel loads (with Airhauler) and there might be a CG issue, although it shows within limits.

 

When I say difficult, I mean wild excursions and difficulty capturing altitudes.

Look forward to future updates, and good luck with your business!

Edited October 8, 20205 yr by Khashoggi

Accufeel was the culprit on the Concorde handling and autopilot. Max speeds were too slow. Setting VNE’s to 500 KIAS and Mach 2.1 solved the problem.

 

Now Concorde handles beautifully! Great plane!

Edited October 11, 20205 yr by Khashoggi

If you want to walk before you run try some subsonic flights first. Climb to FL350 with an IAS around 325kts. That equates to Mach 0.95. Still 100mph faster than an Airbus / Boeing but not so fast you are outside your comfort zone.

The big difference is on descent. At ToD engage IAS HOLD on the right end of the AFCS  and after dialling in your target altitude reduce thrust to idle. Descent rate will be significant. Up to 5,000fpm in order to maintain 325kts. You can get down from FL350 to FL100 in around 50-60nm.

Reduce speed to 250kts. Thereafter visor and nose down to 5°. On approach reduce speed to 170kts, gear down, nose to 12.5° but crucially keep N2 around 87% otherwise there isn’t enough power to counteract the enormous drag from the delta wing. Auto throttles off around 15ft.

Supersonic flight is a different set of rules and really requires a fairly accurate flight model so it can replicate how the real aircraft flew.

On 10/12/2020 at 10:57 AM, Ray Proudfoot said:

If you want to walk before you run try some subsonic flights first. Climb to FL350 with an IAS around 325kts. That equates to Mach 0.95. Still 100mph faster than an Airbus / Boeing but not so fast you are outside your comfort zone.

I would suggest it might be easier for novices to climb at VMO or 395kts (assuming the VMO needle works in this simulation) until they get to Mach 0.95 at FL260, especially if they are fully loaded. 

 

On 10/12/2020 at 10:57 AM, Ray Proudfoot said:

Reduce speed to 250kts. Thereafter visor and nose down to 5°. On approach reduce speed to 170kts, gear down, nose to 12.5° but crucially keep N2 around 87% otherwise there isn’t enough power to counteract the enormous drag from the delta wing. Auto throttles off around 15ft.

170kts is a bit quick for a first go and as long as you are light and at normal landing weight I would say use Vref of 157kts and as long as autothrottles are in, no need to add to work load by monitoring N2's.  

Might all be academic as we don't know how well it handles anyway!

Were can I find the up-elevator electric trim ???

 

Henk.

 

On 10/1/2020 at 2:36 PM, CaptKornDog said:

Cannot set the aircraft to cold and dark startup by default as far as I can see from the manual. 

Concorde loads into FSX just fine here because I've set the default Cessna to be cold and dark. I assume you can do similar with P3D? I just bought the bird today, printed off the manual and had her sitting on the ramp. I do have a problem with trying to start her up from C&D without cheating and using the "master start" switch on the overhead...

On 10/1/2020 at 10:10 AM, DC1973 said:

Hi folks, I've been a bit slow to realise that there was a thread here about my Concorde. Some clarification needed I think. Obviously, this rendition of Concorde is absolutely not for study-level fans, and is not intended as a rival to FSLab's excellent Concorde. It's for those who wanted something more manageable, not to mention more affordable!

The GPS is there for newcomers to flight sim who want to fly Concorde but wouldn't have wanted a fully operational INS, so of course it works via the normal flight planner. The HSI does work in the normal way, however it might benefit from slightly altered textures to maintain the horizon in a steep climb.

The altitude knob is not used to alter altitude. The mouse should be placed over the digits above it, with scrolling to increase or decrease selection. The knob did have a mouse-rect left on it though which has now been removed, so that might have caused the confusion.

Some aircraft have a cold and dark option, this one doesn't, at least not yet. I'll look into how that's done and perhaps add it should enough folks want it. As for fuel, it's added in the normal way, via the in-sim fuel windows. I don't really see much need for detailing that in the manual, as the airplane loads with full fuel anyway and for the most part that's how Concorde would operate ( in-sim, not in real life ).

The stock sim autopilot always seems to "hunt" briefly for a heading, in all aircraft. I don't know why that happens, but it's not really a big deal unless you're already very close to the NAVAID you're using.

The rain through the cockpit is apparently something to do with Prepar3D's Enhanced Atmospherics setting, a new bug since the last hotfix, and nothing to do with Concorde itself.

As for the PC crash, I can't say - I can fly Concorde non-stop across the Atlantic so no issues there, but everyone's PC is different so it's very hard to diagnose.

An update is coming out next week with some bug-fixes and general enhancements. This airplane won't be loved by the hardcore simulation fans, but for the intended market it seems to be proving popular.

Cheers,

Dean, DC Designs

Its a great bird to fly in VR! Thank You!

 

On 9/29/2020 at 9:10 AM, Andreas Stangenes said:

Ok I'll bite... I bought this for p3d v5. Installs ok. And visuals are ok, but nothing to write home about. 

The GPS cannot be programmed in the cockpit, so you MUST, afaik, program the route prior to loading up the airplane.

It rains through the cockpit.

The HSI moves the ball in such a way that it becomes impossible to see if you are flying wings level during a climb at about 20 degrees. Cant remember back from my FSL days in fsx whether it was the ball or the bar that moved, but in any case whatever it did it did it in such a way that it was possible to fly properly in IFR conditions. This HSI from DCD does not.

The altitude knob is not possible to manipulate, so you cannot adjust your altitude.

No settings for the airplane ingame. Cannot set the aircraft to cold and dark startup by default as far as I can see from the manual. 

The manual, although it is nicely written, fails to explain how to properly use this addon. It states several times that "X system was really complicated in real life so we simplified it" but fails to provide a proper guide on what to do. Like how do I load fuel? Do i just plop an arbitrary amount of fuel in there? Manual doesnt say. 

After clicking the AP on it could fly heading mode, but the heading indicator did not turn properly with magnetic heading. I turned left, and the HI first turned right, stopped and thought about it for a moment, and THEN started to turn left. My final course was off by approx 30 degrees compared to my heading on the gps. 

After about 20 minutes my simulator crashed. Earlier today I had completed a 10 hours flight in the PMDG 744 from eddf to ksea without a problem. 

PMDG makes the best flight aircraft for PD5.