16 hours ago, sem said:

if you dont demand better software you wont get it.

you are making the argument that LLBG is good preforming only to you while not comparing it to other airports. it shouldnt be ''allright'' paying 24 dollars for ''allright'' pixels isnt worth its price, it may be good but still, im not making the argument against the airport, im making the argument against aerosoft. its been made by one person, shipped and sold, i installed it and my orbx broke, the afcads were messed up and the sode gates were busted. nevertheless the general stigma with aerosoft is that they sell unfinished products, but there is no valid argument against this since its subjective. but the general 60fps pbr standard is here and to me it isnt holding up to it

Not according to Ray.  They are angel's 

1 hour ago, fluffyflops said:

Not according to Ray.  They are angel's 

The only reason I approved your post is so I could respond to it. Show me where I said that. You won't because I didn't. Don't spout things you know are incorrect.

There is a dedicated topic for this scenery on Aerosoft forums. I suggest you post your comments there.

On 10/11/2020 at 4:38 PM, Ray Proudfoot said:

@fluffyflops, Aerosoft are just the publishers. That is a quick fix in any case. In all my years of buying 3rd party airports I’ve only ever seen one AFD that was error free when run through ADE fault finder. It’s common practice for AFDs to be neglected whoever the developer is.

here.

it would be like serving stale bread on our a/c and saying its not our problem we are the airline not the caterer. 

Edited October 13, 20205 yr by fluffyflops

7 minutes ago, fluffyflops said:

here.

it would be like serving stale bread on our a/c and saying its not our problem we are the airline not the caterer. 

Incorrect - again! You specifically said "angels". And my statement was because all developers neglect the AFD to a greater or lesser degree. And I repeat... Aerosoft are not the developers!!

This is a final warning. If you persist in pursuing this line of discussion you will suffer the consequences.

38 minutes ago, fluffyflops said:

it would be like serving stale bread on our a/c and saying its not our problem we are the airline not the caterer. 

No, it's nothing like that at all.

It is exactly like buying a book published by Penguin and then complaining to Penguin that the author could not spell.

26 minutes ago, Reader said:

No, it's nothing like that at all.

It is exactly like buying a book published by Penguin and then complaining to Penguin that the author could not spell.

Well, I for one would certainly complain to the publisher if the book had not been proof-read for errors, including spelling.

However, spelling is an exact science. Computer programming and its results on different hardware is not.

47 minutes ago, IanHarrison said:

Well, I for one would certainly complain to the publisher if the book had not been proof-read for errors, including spelling.

However, spelling is an exact science. Computer programming and its results on different hardware is not.

what if the same publisher on the last 5 books you bought off them the spelling was incorrect and they released the books early that the books didnt have the epilogue in it and you had to add it a month later.  wouldnt be the best publisher in the world would it.

1 hour ago, Reader said:

No, it's nothing like that at all.

It is exactly like buying a book published by Penguin and then complaining to Penguin that the author could not spell.

No, it would be like expecting STEAM to QC every title uploaded to their platform.  If you buy a game on Steam you may ask Steam to refund it however you got to the DEVELOPER to "fix" it not the publisher.  Honestly I think someone needs some time away from this thread... 

Personally, I flew the QW 787 from KEWR-LLBG in P3DV4.5 yesterday and it was incredible...  Landed at a butter smooth 60FPS with full AI and Tel Aviv in all it's glory, textures looked amazing on approach and after landing, GSX worked fine, gates worked fine, no it didn't have PBR but TBH I have been waiting for a good LLBG for so long PBR is not a show stopper for me...  

Edited October 13, 20205 yr by psolk

In my opinion, if you expect certain products to be perfect (I am not talking about cars or other pieces of machinery!), you will often be disappointed. The fact is that something like an addon airport can likely never be perfect. I have purchased a ton of Aerosoft products, and for the most part they have been good enough to meet my expectations. Some have been better than others. I know bugs can be annoying, but I am not seeing any show stoppers with this latest release. They have certainly put out a few duds over the years, but the duds are by far the minority in my opinion. As I said earlier, LLBG seems very good to me. That said, I don't fly around the airport in a drone looking for errors, so perhaps I am missing some of these bugs. 

Cheers, Pete

Edited October 13, 20205 yr by PilotPete99

4 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

what if the same publisher on the last 5 books you bought off them the spelling was incorrect and they released the books early that the books didnt have the epilogue in it and you had to add it a month later.  wouldnt be the best publisher in the world would it.

That's what I implied. They would soon be out of business. (Mind you, with the poor English written these days, probably quite a few people wouldn't know the difference).

... for some reason I thought I'd stumbled into an MSFS or Blackbox Simulation thread... 

Well new update is out and gsx still don’t work no afcad path well what I can see anyway 

On 10/14/2020 at 10:52 AM, Matty2123 said:

Well new update is out and gsx still don’t work no afcad path well what I can see anyway 

you need to copy some files over.

it works with the new update

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 17, 20205 yr by fluffyflops

On 10/13/2020 at 10:33 AM, Ray Proudfoot said:

Incorrect - again! You specifically said "angels". And my statement was because all developers neglect the AFD to a greater or lesser degree. And I repeat... Aerosoft are not the developers!!

This is a final warning. If you persist in pursuing this line of discussion you will suffer the consequences.

Thats like blaming individual construction workers for a building collapsing. the company sells it under their name. their fault, they oversee development.

8 minutes ago, sem said:

Thats like blaming individual construction workers for a building collapsing. the company sells it under their name. their fault, they oversee development.

A much better analogy is you going to Media Markt and buying a Sony TV that fails four months after you buy it--that's not Media Markt's fault, that's Sony's problem.

It's clear enough to anyone that looks, that this is a work by David Rosenfeld, published and marketed by Aerosoft.  FWIW, his previous iterations of this scenery were published by FSAddons, not Aerosoft.  The things David does well in his sceneries, and the things he does not so well are attributable to *him*.

If you really buy add-ons from Aerosoft thinking that they are all made by the same guys and therefore should all be of equal quality, then you err greatly, and the consequences of your inadequate due diligence are yours to deal with.

Caveat Emptor!