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Seoul-Incheon (RKSI) airport recommendations?

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Hello everyone,

recently I saw that Pacific Islands Simulation released a new installer for P3D v5 for some of their airports, for example Incheon (RKSI) in Seoul. I'm already interested in this specific airport for a while now but there was no version for v5 until now. On simMarket I also saw the same airport from a developer called Le Aero Design and it's on sale right now until 4th of October.

Only from what I see on the pictures I'd rather tend to buy this one from PacIsland Sim but it is hard to say. I found a lot of material of that one on YouTube but for the Le Aero Design I only found those pictures from the shop and especially on picture 7 where you can see the Terminal 1 buildung it doesn't look that good... a little bit outdated in my opinion. Maybe someone has experience with both products and can tell which one is better.

Thanks a lot!

Regards 🙂

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I have the PacSim version and it is very good. I can recommend it.

Cheers, Pete

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2 hours ago, PilotPete99 said:

I have the PacSim version and it is very good

Pete

Is there daytime low visibily ALS / runway etc. lighting ....... hard to tell / guess from the store.

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I wouldn't call PacSim's RKSI "very good," it's mediocre and overpriced. But it's the only one remotely close to being payware worthy, so that's your one option.

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8 hours ago, vadriver said:

Pete

Is there daytime low visibily ALS / runway etc. lighting ....... hard to tell / guess from the store.

Thanks

I am not certain, I haven’t flown there in a while. 
 

Cheers, Pete

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15 hours ago, Rasta_Dude said:

.......recently I saw that Pacific Islands Simulation released a new installer for P3D v5 for some of their airports, for example Incheon (RKSI) in Seoul.....

I would be interested to know where the v5 installer can be downloaded.  I own the v4 version, but have not been able to find the v5 installer on the Pac Sim website or Facebook page.   😕

Since I'm only using v5 now, I've found the default RKSI to be satisfactory.  


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19 minutes ago, BlueStar said:

I would be interested to know where the v5 installer can be downloaded.  I own the v4 version, but have not been able to find the v5 installer on the Pac Sim website or Facebook page.   😕

Since I'm only using v5 now, I've found the default RKSI to be satisfactory.  

Me too , i do point the path to v4 and it works in v5

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2 minutes ago, Michael Moe said:

Me too , i do point the path to v4 and it works in v5

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There's also a v5 compatibility fix at iniBuilds (an exclude file) that clears out some conflicting default v5 signs & buildings, IIRC.  I just created a separate scenery area for the exclude immediately below the entry for RKSI, which points to my existing P3Dv4 installation.

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2 hours ago, Michael Moe said:

Me too , i do point the path to v4 and it works in v5

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You have to send an email to Graham at PacSim, or just use your original link and the server will pop up and you add a comment into the box that you want the v5 installer. One thing I want to note is that there is a $6.99 charge to get the updated v5 installer.

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I see the're going down the JustSim road. 


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Thanks all for your thoughts on this!

I decided to buy PacSim's RKSI airport. Today I already flown an ILS approach into Runway 34 and you're right maybe it's not perfect but I don't regret it anyways. I'm quite satisfied with it.

 

Regards 🙂

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Is there in the meantime someone, who bought the LE AERO DESIGN RKSI?

I ask, because the  Pacific Islands Simulation RKSI is in the sale on Black Friday and updated to Version to P3Dv5.

Joachim


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7 hours ago, Prisco said:

Is there in the meantime someone, who bought the LE AERO DESIGN RKSI?

I ask, because the  Pacific Islands Simulation RKSI is in the sale on Black Friday and updated to Version to P3Dv5.

Joachim

I have both, and both have their own pro's and con's.

Positive things about Pacsim Version:

  • V4\V5 Compatible
  • Large coverage area 
  • Lots of hand placed buildings on the island, Bridge, etc.
  • Songdo district is modeled
  • Looks very nice coming in on approach!
  • Great details like Maglev and Incheon city!
  • Has multiple seasons and is generally well modeled

Negative things about Pacsim Version:

  • Dynamic Lighting is not up to par with most addons out there. (I use inibuilds profile to help with this, not perfect, but much better).
  • No night lighting on the terminals. (Only from the light poles)
  • Ground poly's are legacy style. (Would be nice to have PBR materials for pavement\runway\apron surfaces)
  • Glass textures could be improved.

Positive things about Le Aero Design Version:

  • V4\V5 Compatible
  • Entire airport is SODE controlled (Night Lighting, Jetways, VDGS etc)
  • Custom GSX file (This is a very neat feature that they spent a lot of time on. Parking positions are accurate depending on Aircraft type and incorporate custom pushback directions\stop points for each gate based off real airport ops)
  • 4K ground polygons with PBR
  • Dynamic Lighting is very good
  • Accurate amp markings

Negative things about Le Aero Design Version:

  • Airport is missing some textures on some buildings
  • Does not include whole island (No Custom autogen like the pacsim version)
  • No airport clutter. Feels a little empty compared to the Pacsim version, although I heard an update will address this
  • Uses GSX L2 models as jetways (They mentioned a future update will bring custom Sode jetways)

If I can think of more, I will edit my post. This was jsut from the top of my head. If there was a way to combine the two versions, it would be absolutely perfect. (I'm passionate about this location as majority of my flying is out of Seoul).

Hope this helps!

 

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Hi Tino,

many thanks for your detailed discription.

I think i will go with Pacsim, because the screenshots of the surroundings are amazing.

May be there comes an update for PBR, etc., along.

Again thank you

Joachim


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