AMD announces new Ryzen CPU's

[G-RFRY 1,711]

I would wait and see the real world test, the AMD bench is a gain on the last AMD CPU`s not Intel. the 5950x max boost 4.8 on a single core £800.

[pgde 571]

Clock speed may not be as important as the gain of IPC performance will allow the processor to perform as if the clock speed was higher. And in reality how much difference is there between 4.9 and 5.3 Ghz in the real world? 

 

[Brandon01110 407]

56 minutes ago, G-RFRY said:

the AMD bench is a gain on the last AMD CPU`s not Intel.

Did we see the same presentation?  AMD showed single core scores exceeding intel's.

[Vlooi 68]

18 hours ago, hanhamreds said:

Glad my x570 Strix isn't obsolete

This is a super board, one of the best on the market.

[Vlooi 68]

1 hour ago, G-RFRY said:

I would wait and see the real world test, the AMD bench is a gain on the last AMD CPU`s not Intel. the 5950x max boost 4.8 on a single core £800.

Clock speed alone is never the only factor in terms of performance. You forgot IPC.

[Tektolnes 184]

3 hours ago, G-RFRY said:

the AMD bench is a gain on the last AMD CPU`s not Intel

They benched the 5900X vs 10900K too:

Hard to say what the 5950X will be but with Ashes of the Singularity the 5900X was +5% over the 10900K while the 5950X was +11% over the 10900K. Though the 5950X isn't really a direct competitor to the 10900K given that it's a $800 chip.

But yes we'll need to see real world results from independent testers to get a clear picture of it's actual performance as can't go on just what AMD say. It's priced around the same as 10900K and maybe doesn't offer a huge amount more but at least us AMD users can get those levels of performance now which represents a good gain on where things stood previously. Probably won't be much overclocking room as AMD use almost all of it up it seems so remains to be seen how the 5900X overclocked compares to a 10900K boosted to 5.1MHz. 

[G-RFRY 1,711]

So it should wipe the floor with Intel in CineBench R20 single core benchmark.

[pgde 571]

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[Tektolnes 184]

5900X vs 10900K in Cinebench R20 single core was 631 to 544 which is 16% advantage:

Edited October 9, 2020 by Tektolnes

[Brandon01110 407]

On 10/9/2020 at 12:36 PM, G-RFRY said:

So it should wipe the floor with Intel in CineBench R20 single core benchmark.

Yes it should, in addition to most games AND applications.  

[Emerson67 248]

The hype, the hype...

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (12-core) versus Ryzen 9 3900XT (12-core)

Leaked Cinebench scores

Performance increase:

Single core: +16%

Multi core: +12%

You pay more US$ 50 for that

Is this "great"? Where is the big deal on 5900X?

 

[pstrub 998]

1 hour ago, Emerson67 said:

The hype, the hype...

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (12-core) versus Ryzen 9 3900XT (12-core)

Leaked Cinebench scores

Performance increase:

Single core: +16%

Multi core: +12%

You pay more US$ 50 for that

Is this "great"? Where is the big deal on 5900X?

 

12-16% more performance gain is close to what Nvidia's 3090 offers over the 3080, if you don't make use of the extra RAM. I'd say, paying only $50 more is a bargain 😛 

On a more serious note, if those figures are correct, the increase in Cinebench is below average, compared to other workloads. If the overall increase is around 25%, as suggested in AMDs presentation, I wouldn't mind paying 10% extra in price. At the top end of CPUs, this is actually a rather moderate price increase, taking into account that they're marketing it as the fastest gaming CPU that money can buy.

And give it a couple of months' time, the market price is going to drop rather quickly on these CPUs...

First of all we have to wait for benchmarks. The amount of performance increase depends heavily on the type of workload you're running, and it's impossible to guess correctly to what extent the improvements materialise when running MSFS. 

 

 

Edited October 12, 2020 by pstrub

[CFIJose 5,485]

I think I have just found the next i7 2600K. I'm going AMD when I upgrade. I hope the price stays at about $300.

[martin-w 3,235]

On 10/9/2020 at 5:11 PM, Tektolnes said:

They benched the 5900X vs 10900K too:

Hard to say what the 5950X will be but with Ashes of the Singularity the 5900X was +5% over the 10900K while the 5950X was +11% over the 10900K. Though the 5950X isn't really a direct competitor to the 10900K given that it's a $800 chip.

 

 

5% is nothing. The real benefit will be if its significantly cheaper than the Intel equivalent. 

 

You also mentioned OC. Dont think there's much point with AMD chips is there? They pretty much boost themselves. 

Edited October 28, 2020 by martin-w

[Tektolnes 184]

 

On 10/28/2020 at 2:04 PM, martin-w said:

5% is nothing. The real benefit will be if its significantly cheaper than the Intel equivalent.

There's not a whole lot of data out there right now but single core results for the 5800X show a decent gain over the 10900K e.g. with the CPU-Z benchmark there's an 11% gain. The 10900K does better in multi-core tests though as it has 2 additional cores.

But I'm waiting to see what we actually get once independent reviewers get their hands on it. The price for the 5800X and 10900K are more or less the same - the 5800X is maybe $30 cheaper but Intel can easily drop a bit to match. The 5900X will be about $70 more than the 10900K and seems to be about 15-20% better in single core and 15% in multi-core but I'm taking all those numbers with a large pinch of salt for now.

The 3000 series certainly didn't have much OC headroom. While I could get a decent all core OC which gave me good synthetic test results for stable gaming on my 3800X I found it was best to just switch on Precision Boost Overdrive and call it a day. Guess we'll have to wait and see for the 5000 series. I can see there's some tests out there where the 5900X had it's boost lifted from 4.8GHz to 4.95GHz so I think that could be the most that could be expected but we'll see.

I think the days of AMD competing on lower prices in the CPU range are more or less over so they won't be cheaper than the Intel equivalents. Going to be a straight choice on performance. I'm not massively pushed about having the absolute best CPU so if AMD are offering CPUs that either match or exceed the 10900K then that's plenty good for me. I can get a 5900X and 6800XT for $1200 and that's me set for a few years I reckon.