“Press any key to start” in patch 1.9.5 was a mistake

[marsman2020 1,310]

18 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

I think they wanted to fix the most critical bugs in this patch like the VFR map CTD bug and at the same time, they don’t want to break things and cause further bugs. The LOD and Draw Distance fix may be much more complex and a shallow attempt to fix it may cause more bugs.

From my understanding, they are resurrecting the player testing group to test the VR patch release.  I agree with you that they need to keep up with a high volume of fixes and feature additions, but I also think it’s okay if they do that once they have a player testing group to test patch releases.

I think for this update, they wanted to stabilize things without breaking things further. So at least for this update, I agree with their decision.  But once they have that player testing group up and running to test patch releases, they need to go back to releasing more fixes and features for each patch.

If you take a Bing Tech Demo with a random Cessna slewing around with no physics, show it to some suits, and then slap on some re-heated and re-warmed FSX physics code, and then try to add a UI to that that people can interact with....you might end up with an unmaintainable pile of spaghetti code so bad that touching 1 thing breaks 5 other things.....

I would not have chosen to make "press any key" a top priority, but they said it would be fixed in a very high profile update that had to have been reviewed at multiple levels of Asobo and MS.  How am I supposed to trust anything else they tell us, if they couldn't even provide correct info on this one small thing?  What is the point in spending my time on this so-called "simulator" if they can't clearly and correctly communicate with us?

Edited October 13, 2020 by marsman2020

[Ixoye 1,821]

7 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Where is the fix for "Press of a key" ??

https://github.com/AmbitiousPilots/FSJumpStarter2020

[abrams_tank 7,397]

18 minutes ago, Steku said:

Can you imagine these poor people responsible for preparing the feedback snasphot? And these publishing this on the net? And their managers? And the Asobo boss who said on the interview how easy is to fix that? 

But at the beginning of the chain was one guy who misunderstood the content of update 4. Or who is just blamed for it. He most probably won't be able to sleep well tonight...

They just destroyed all the potential positive response to the hard work of the entire team working on the patch.

They are not very lucky recently:

- 1.9.5.0 - all destroyed by the "Press any key issue"

- 19.9.3.0 - all positive reception of Japan destroyed by VFR map, tall buildings and LOD issues

- the previous one - Airbus issue, sensitivity interface issue.

Is it continuous bad luck or rather management issue?

It’s a very ambitious project with over 200 employees working on it at its peak (not sure if there is still 200 people working on it),  If you give XPlane and P3D 15 years, I don’t even know if XPlane and P3D can get to where MSFS is today.

So MSFS is a very complex project and stuff happens in a project as complex as MSFS.

i would rather not wait for 15 years for XPlane and P3D to catch up.  Most of these bugs and issues will probably  be sorted out within a year with MSFS.

Edited October 13, 2020 by abrams_tank

[109Sqn 1,557]

Embarrassing, but at least they've addressed it fairly quickly. It's one of those things I can live with till it's fixed. Hope it's not too far away though. A special hotfix would be appreciated once it's been carefully tested of course.

[himmelhorse 1,276]

47 minutes ago, NightOfDreams said:

Dont know how I'll survive if I have to press any key to continue

I loved this comment mate.

However, if you are serious, you can PM me for a link to a specialist clinic which only handles personality conflicts concerning "press any key to continue" issues. I do not believe Iron Lungs are involved but it does involve invasive (very invasive) surgery on your left hand little finger. 

I may also involve extensive international travel (not a good idea at the moment) to a very small county in lower Zambezi.  It is not know whether or not, this clinic makes a huge, MS like, annual profit LOL

Regards and best wishes for a speedy recovery

Tony

[Glenn Fitzpatrick 3,798]

Sadly I do not have this "any" key.

However I have a solution !

I wrote "any" on a sticker with a black marking pen and stuck it on my space bar.

This works fine, the game started fine.

[himmelhorse 1,276]

3 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

Sadly I do not have this "any" key.

However I have a solution !

I wrote "any" on a sticker with a black marking pen and stuck it on my space bar.

This works fine, the game started fine.

I love this game almost as much as MSFS2020 LOL

Tony

[sanh 823]

41 minutes ago, marsman2020 said:

 

I would not have chosen to make "press any key" a top priority, but they said it would be fixed in a very high profile update that had to have been reviewed at multiple levels of Asobo and MS.  How am I supposed to trust anything else they tell us, if they couldn't even provide correct info on this one small thing?  What is the point in spending my time on this so-called "simulator" if they can't clearly and correctly communicate with us?

I would not advise taking it so seriously. They are not holding your life savings or trying to sell you a house. Its just a computer game. Mistakes happen. If you don't trust anyone who makes mistakes you can't trust anybody including yourself:)

Whether they put in fixes promised or not. Just play and enjoy.

Edited October 13, 2020 by sanh

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

57 minutes ago, MikeT707 said:

Please let us know how it works out. 

Worked!   Thank you!

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

30 minutes ago, 109Sqn said:

Embarrassing, but at least they've addressed it fairly quickly. It's one of those things I can live with till it's fixed. Hope it's not too far away though. A special hotfix would be appreciated once it's been carefully tested of course.

As quoted above:

https://github.com/AmbitiousPilots/FSJumpStarter2020

carefully tested by yours truly.. 🙂

Edited October 13, 2020 by Bert Pieke

[109Sqn 1,557]

@Bert Pieke Thanks. I've been holding off trying that fix as it's not as big an issue for me as it clearly has been for some others. It's on the backburner in case I join the ranks of the frustrated!😄

[Moria15 950]

 

Deleted due to my normal sense of humour going into meltdown 🙂

Graham

Edited October 14, 2020 by Moria15

[scotchegg 4,186]

13 hours ago, marsman2020 said:

How am I supposed to trust anything else they tell us, if they couldn't even provide correct info on this one small thing?  What is the point in spending my time on this so-called "simulator"

For you the answer is clearly that you can’t, and you shouldn’t. All of your posts are complaints and / or mudslinging that the devs are ‘untrustworthy’, ‘scammers, and ‘liars’.

Not saying that some of your complaints aren’t justified, but your comments are getting increasingly emotional and moving towards abuse. It’s probably better for you more than the rest of us that you give MSFS a rest for a while?

[marsman2020 1,310]

5 hours ago, scotchegg said:

For you the answer is clearly that you can’t, and you shouldn’t. All of your posts are complaints and / or mudslinging that the devs are ‘untrustworthy’, ‘scammers, and ‘liars’.

Not saying that some of your complaints aren’t justified, but your comments are getting increasingly emotional and moving towards abuse. It’s probably better for you more than the rest of us that you give MSFS a rest for a while?

I paid for Premium Deluxe content that frankly doesn't work, and MS/Asobo has shown 0 commitment to resolving those items, assigning them to backlog and refusing to acknowledge the issues.

Regardless of the technical content of the sim today, Microsoft's marketing strategy was based on *at best* half-truths and promises of things that don't actually exist.  They had to know what the actual state of the software was (certainly the users who were in the Alpha and Beta did, but couldn't say anything due to the NDA).  I do think it's very "scammy" type behavior the way this was marketed, with carefully controlled Youtube videos by people who weren't going to "look behind the curtain".

Now we have updates where they release a very public feedback summary, which must go through multiple layers of review to be approved, and they put stuff on there that isn't actually part of the update - after the CEO of Asobo specifically stated how easy it was to fix.  I can't attribute that to a simple typo, it doesn't make sense.   

So yes, right now based on objective evidence I have very little trust in Microsoft/Asobo, their ability to be truly honest (vs just saying what people want to hear regardless of if they intend to follow through). The product was clearly marketed as done/complete when it is not.

I've made numerous posts trying to point out information and be helpful where I can.