October 20, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Ricardo41 said: If you fly the ils approach correctly, the plane will glide down the glide slope like a stripper on a greasy pole. Best description of flying an ILS in all of of human history.
October 20, 20205 yr 55 minutes ago, 2reds2whites said: Not true. An autopilot should never oscillate in pitch for more than a few seconds. Power/airspeed/config all irrelevant. I'm sorry but there are 20 different ways to achieve any descent profile in an airplane like the 930. To say "power/airspeed/config all irrelevant" is just nonsense.
October 20, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, ThomseN_inc said: If you say so.... 😄 If I say so? Some of you guys are hilarious lmao
October 20, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, mtr75 said: I'm sorry but there are 20 different ways to achieve any descent profile in an airplane like the 930. To say "power/airspeed/config all irrelevant" is just nonsense. None of them have anything to do with a pitch-oscillating autopilot. You can descend any way you like, an autopilot does not 'bob' in pitch.
October 21, 20205 yr 9 hours ago, devgrp said: If I say so? Some of you guys are hilarious lmao Honestly...why can't people who don't wan't to help or contribute to the OP just stay away? Don't you have better things to do? Intel i9-13900K | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master | RTX4090 | 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-6000 | Be quiet! Pure Loop 2 FX AiO | Win 11
October 21, 20205 yr I'm confused: what is this video posted on the previous page supposed to demonstrate?
October 21, 20205 yr On 10/20/2020 at 2:36 AM, ark said: Seems to happen when tracking the glide slope -- typically when inside the FAF with gear down, full flaps, and 85 knots -- so the standard approach configuration. Al Yes I have noticed this too, the TBM also does not always follow the glide slope accurately. Edited October 21, 20205 yr by Scimiter Asus Maximus Hero X11, Intel i9 10850k, 32gb Corsair Dominator ram, 2tb Corsair mp510 ssd m2, Gigybyte turbo RTX 3090
October 21, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said: I'm confused: what is this video posted on the previous page supposed to demonstrate? That: "this plane really likes to oscillate.....up and down with the pitch...when on ILS down and low" (18:05 in video) and he's therefore handflying from 500 ft. down. It's a great find and shows that real world autopilots have their flaws too. While I think there's defintely room for improvement with the MSFS autopilot I never had the OP problems with pitch oscillation on approach in the TBM. I had pitch oscillation during one whole flight once, and that vanished after deleting a mod I was using at that time. Power/speed/config matter a lot, be it in sim or in the real airplane. Then there's wind and turbulence, control sensitivity and -quality (spikes?) to be considered. However, I noticed that the AP in the TBM tends to sway left and right by up to 5 degrees enroute before "settling" on a new track of the flightplan, so maybe the programming in general has it's part in the problem some are seeing and others are not. Asus ROG STRIX X870-E Gaming; Ryzen9 9950X3D; RX9070XT; 96GB RAM; 4GB/2GB M.2 SSD; 8GB HDD; LG 45GX90SA-B
October 21, 20205 yr Mmmmm, maybe the guy is just not a very good pilot. He admits himself that "he's too fast on the approach".
October 21, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, ThomseN_inc said: Honestly...why can't people who don't wan't to help or contribute to the OP just stay away? Don't you have better things to do? I did, I posted a video showing that I didn't have the problem the op mentioned
October 21, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, Tom_L said: That: "this plane really likes to oscillate..... I believe he's talking about that individual Plane...not the type in general. But i could be mistaken though.... Intel i9-13900K | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master | RTX4090 | 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-6000 | Be quiet! Pure Loop 2 FX AiO | Win 11
October 21, 20205 yr 18 minutes ago, devgrp said: I did, I posted a video showing that I didn't have the problem the op mentioned Well...thanks for nothing! Intel i9-13900K | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master | RTX4090 | 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-6000 | Be quiet! Pure Loop 2 FX AiO | Win 11
October 21, 20205 yr 17 hours ago, mtr75 said: Best description of flying an ILS in all of of human history. LMAO Agreed !! Richard i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |
October 21, 20205 yr 15 hours ago, 2reds2whites said: None of them have anything to do with a pitch-oscillating autopilot. You can descend any way you like, an autopilot does not 'bob' in pitch. Aside from the fact that repeating nonsense doesn't make it true, tell that to the most famous TBM pilot in the world (@18:07): "This plane really likes to oscillate on ILS's down low, up and down with the pitch."
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