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2 minutes ago, simfan1983 said:

Indeed, or they can just force out a paid upgrade every year or two and customers have no choice but to pay if they want to continue using the sim.

agree.  Which to be honest I would have no problem with.  A lot of people would hate this.  But the sim has to pay the bills one way or another.  Especially when addons can be purchased externally which completely cuts any revenue from MS on those transactions. 


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Oh good grief, the accusations have gone from MS/Asobo’s being merely incompetent to acting strategically and maliciously to “punish” their own future 3PDs by starving them of revenue streams, and slowly strangle P3D into the bargain.

That is truly an aggressive claim, although given the recent “Proud Boys” rhetoric from the same source, hardly surprising. 

I mean, if MS truly wanted to strangle P3D in the commercial market they’d just insist on eula enforcement or enact some other clause their contract is bound to have to repossess the commercial market.

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9 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

I mean, if MS truly wanted to strangle P3D in the commercial market they’d just insist on eula enforcement or enact some other clause their contract is bound to have to repossess the commercial market.

That would be a fight against LM.. good luck with that 😂

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The corporate history of Microsoft is full of predatory and monopolistic behaviour and tax avoidance so it's hardly a big stretch to think they would not behave ethically. 

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Microsoft don't want us the simmers. So...


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3 minutes ago, Juliet Alpha said:

Microsoft don't want us the simmers. So...

They want us too $$$ - but don't mind if we jump out of the boat. They go for the majority


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11 minutes ago, Juliet Alpha said:

Microsoft don't want us the simmers. So.

This is hard to deny.  It is also hard to imagine that they got their strategy so wrong, that they have limited their sales to over 1 million in less than a month.  I just wish I could get things so wrong occasionally. 

I think their target is the xbox genre and they have sucked in so many simmers, who incidently are quite happy with what they have so far.  Think potential, potential, potential.

The lack of future 3PDs in MSFS may well inhibit their sales to less than 2 million and I can only guess what a financial calamity that would be. 

I still prefer P3D for overall excellence but, we have to face the fact that, MSFS is well ahead of the game when it comes tp scenery (accurate or not) 

P3D and Xplane have not, and will not, just roll over and die ... they have a development plan which may not be transparent, but it is there.  Just imagine what P3D would be like with Google Earth scenery streamed, and the same applies to XPlane.

My money is on both these platforms to survive and to compete with MSFS in the near future.

The good thing is that the simming community will ultimately be the winners and we have a lot to look forward to in the future.

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I have no doubt that Microsoft would "starve" some third party developers if the alternative (otherwise known as the XBox market) would be more lucrative.


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Just now, Christopher Low said:

I have no doubt that Microsoft would "starve" some third party developers if the alternative (otherwise known as the XBox market) would be more lucrative.

The most surprising thing to me is that they haven't used the software to deny 3rd party installation and instead forced all addons thru the marketplace so they get their cut


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1 hour ago, simfan1983 said:

it's hardly a big stretch to think they would not behave ethically.

As opposed to an actual manufacturer of weapons of mass destruction...?

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38 minutes ago, micstatic said:

The most surprising thing to me is that they haven't used the software to deny 3rd party installation and instead forced all addons thru the marketplace so they get their cut

Not yet, but that may come. They can easily explain that with "compatibility reasons" and its also make sense that the SDK developement may also stagnate soon They go for mass market, mark my words.

And when someday the market is saturated and its going to not get any money out they can easily pull the plug. "Bye bye streamed scenery".

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1 minute ago, scotchegg said:

As opposed to an actual manufacturer of weapons of mass destruction...?

I'm not a pacifist so yes.

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11 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

As opposed to an actual manufacturer of weapons of mass destruction...?

To which MS has willingly sold its OS, office software etc.

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53 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

As opposed to an actual manufacturer of weapons of mass destruction...?

40 minutes ago, JoeFackel said:

To which MS has willingly sold its OS, office software etc.


Not the only one either:
 

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Nonetheless, BAE Systems subsidiary Insyte, the UK's sole provider of warship command systems, has decided to standardise on Win2k (this was during the company's former incarnation as AMS).

The Type 45 destroyers now being launched will run Windows for Warships: and that's not all. The attack submarine Torbay has been retrofitted with Microsoft-based command systems, and as time goes by the rest of the British submarine fleet will get the same treatment, including the Vanguard class (V class).

https://www.theregister.com/2007/02/26/windows_boxes_at_sea/

 

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Much of the Royal Navy fleet uses a specialized, hardened version of Windows 2000, dubbed 'Windows for Warships'

https://www.neowin.net/news/despite-what-you-may-have-read-the-royal-navys-new-flagship-doesnt-run-windows-xp/


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