Honeycomb Alpha Flight Yoke and Switch Panel

[Glenn Fitzpatrick 3,798]

31 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Way to large to fit in my flying environment and at almost twice the price.  I am always suspicious when a post like the one to start this topic is so immediately followed with a plug for a different brand.

Merely pointing out the other option that lies between the toy yokes like the CH and the super expensive Brunner and Yoko level.

Basically the mid price choice comes down to the Honeycomb or Fulcrum.

I was within a day of buying the Honeycomb when I was told about the fulcrum and pre-ordered that instead. The Honeycomb is good but suffers from a short elevator movement (which as you say is a plus if you lack space) and also has all that extra switch gear which is a big bonus for people that do not have that stuff - but will double up for others.

Of course the Fulcrum is a pre-order and wait deal at present so one big plus of the Honeycomb is you can get them right now.

[Mikeingreen 139]

34 minutes ago, fppilot said:

??????

In what I have read on the issue, people somehow are using the scroll wheel on the mouse to change heading/altitude. Maybe hovering over the knob? I don't know as I don't do it that way. I jsut use left-click on either side of the knob and all works fine so far. All the switches are assigned at defaults and I have them on like they should be during flight. I have had no issue so far.

[CFIJose 5,485]

54 minutes ago, fppilot said:

I am always suspicious when a post like the one to start this topic is so immediately followed with a plug for a different brand.

I just ignored it. But, I think he meant well.

[fppilot 4,360]

21 minutes ago, Mikeingreen said:

I jsut use left-click on either side of the knob and all works fine so far.

OK That makes sense.  To me it appeared your earlier message was referring to knobs on the yoke, which does not have knobs. Thanks for the clarification.

[fppilot 4,360]

6 minutes ago, DJJose said:

I just ignored it. But, I think he meant well.

Yes, thank you.

[feng 0]

23 minutes ago, Mikeingreen said:

In what I have read on the issue, people somehow are using the scroll wheel on the mouse to change heading/altitude. Maybe hovering over the knob? I don't know as I don't do it that way. I jsut use left-click on either side of the knob and all works fine so far. All the switches are assigned at defaults and I have them on like they should be during flight. I have had no issue so far.

Exactly that, I have a honeycomb yoke, If I left click on the knobs on the autopilot it changes in increments of a single digit, If I hover the mouse over and use the scroll wheel it adjusts 10 at a time, useful if you want to make a fairly large adjustment (like a 90 degree turn) as you can scroll most of the way and then fine tune with a couple of clicks.

[FrankR409 514]

1 minute ago, feng said:

Exactly that, I have a honeycomb yoke, If I left click on the knobs on the autopilot it changes in increments of a single digit, If I hover the mouse over and use the scroll wheel it adjusts 10 at a time, useful if you want to make a fairly large adjustment (like a 90 degree turn) as you can scroll most of the way and then fine tune with a couple of clicks.

Exactly the way I do it myself, and it works perfectly.  I don’t consider it a bug.  I have read some of the most convoluted threads about folks hooking up fsuipc, unbinding the Alpha switches, standing on their left leg, etc, to fix something that works perfectly.  

[Little Jenny 315]

1 hour ago, Mikeingreen said:

I received mine last Friday and like FrankR409 said, it has worked perfectly. I tested for the Heading Bug issue and I am not getting it. I don't use the scroll wheel to change altitude or heading, I use the knobs, so that may be why. As to OP, the Alpha is so far beyond what my CH Yoke in quality, it is amazing. I can't wait for the Bravo Throttle to arrive. 

I was wondering about the heading bug issue.  I haven't used my Alpha yet (just got it Monday).  Like you, I don't use the scroll wheel to change the heading or altitude, so looks like the buttons aren't going to be an issue.  Woohoo!!!!!

[hillsboy 33]

My Honeycomb yoke has made my simming much more enjoyable.  Very durable as well. Top notch product!

[macpilot 22]

Great product agree with everyone. I have pre ordered the throttle form Honey Comb.

 

Bill McCracken

[Noel 4,496]

3 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

Be aware the Fulcrum has also started shipping.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/882-fulcrum-simulator-controls/

I have this guy on pre-order but I'm wondering what it will do for me.  Right now, because of the poor control esp elevators I always use a rocker button on the Saitek TQ assigned to trim control to manage flare and landing as the Saitek Yoke is just too course for fine control and changing axis sensitivities only helps so much.   I guess what I'm asking is:  will I likely continue this practice of using trim to control the aircraft on approach especially, or will this new yoke be so much better it may encourage me to do more w/ the yoke for fine control.  I've been at FS for decades and won't be leaving anytime soon, so the cost does not bother me for this yoke, I'm just not certain what it will bring.

[stigt 13]

Got my honeycomb a few weeks ago and I can confirm its an incredible product. The 180 degree range on both sides makes a world of difference, and my landings have improved a lot since I replaced my saitek yoke with the alpha. Now I’m eagerly awaiting the bravo throttle, already pre ordered and expected to ship mid december.

Edited October 21, 2020 by stigt

[Frank Rajnai 7]

I just recieved my Honeycomb, and I've done a few short flights with it for tuning and to get a feel for it. Like many I am coming from a Saitek Pro yoke, which I was never too fond of.

So far, I really like the roll axis movement, however, I find the elevator axis to be VERY stiff. Like I dont dig it at all.

Does anyone have any solution for this? Can I maybe adjust sensitivity way up so i dont have to push/pull so much?

For those that are happy with the pitch axis... can I trouble you for your sensitivity settings or setup?

[177B 730]

7 minutes ago, Frank Rajnai said:

I just recieved my Honeycomb, and I've done a few short flights with it for tuning and to get a feel for it. Like many I am coming from a Saitek Pro yoke, which I was never too fond of.

So far, I really like the roll axis movement, however, I find the elevator axis to be VERY stiff. Like I dont dig it at all.

Does anyone have any solution for this? Can I maybe adjust sensitivity way up so i dont have to push/pull so much?

For those that are happy with the pitch axis... can I trouble you for your sensitivity settings or setup?

Learn to use trim. That is how you fly a real plane.

In a real plane when you go fast it is very hard to use elevator. Assign one of the left side buttons to trim, it comes with need to push both, but change that to just one and use the other for something else like custom views.

I set null zone to 0. This makes it a bit easier.

In a real plane you hold the altitude or climb/descent rate with the yoke and then trim way any force needed to hold that attitude.

Remember trim sets air speed and throttle sets climb/descent. Once you figure this out it becomes easy. 

[mtr75 653]

The Alpha is superb. I've had no problem with it in MSFS. The thing about the Alpha is that you have 180 degrees of rotation in each direction, whereas with things like the Saitek (which I was quite happy with for a while), you only have 90 degrees either way (left/right). So essentially they have to use an acceleration past a certain point when turning in either direction to achieve full aileron deflection, which makes precise control during steep turns difficult, especially when low and slow.

The Alpha is an absolute joy.