October 28, 20205 yr I don't think they try to ignore the community. I think its just like drinking from a fire hose. There is a lot of loud people. And its hard to filter out the noise after a while. Which is why they said "Hey if you know this emails us at XXXX" they clearly know about it and want to fix things but troubleshooting when they cannot duplicate something is VERY difficult.
October 28, 20205 yr I'm impressed by the transparency those live events show. Gives a good feeling! Karl i9-9900K@5,0 | 32GB 3200 | 2080TI | 4K 55" | MSFS | P3D V5
October 28, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, kaha said: I'm impressed by the transparency those live events show. Gives a good feeling! Karl Agree, we can criticize many aspects of the sim but I never seen a developer being so engaged with the community to provide weekly updates, bi-weekly software updates and monthly Q&A's It really is quite extraordinary, props to MS and Asobo
October 28, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, espent said: I liked it. The only thing that didn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling was when they talked about lightening. "We know about some reports about excessive lightening over Bahamas..."??? I see this pretty much everywhere. Surprised they did not know more about this. No way they could miss the "storm warnings" sounding on the forums. Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
October 28, 20205 yr 40 minutes ago, sanh said: Disagree. The AI question was half a page long. If you want straightforward answers you have to ask straightforward questions. Loads of people on the msfs forums asking why the lack of ai traffic was not answered. Well if the question was "why is there no or so little ai traffic at airports?" them it would be answered. Half a page of questions to be answered on a live q&a only 1hr long is always going to be a mess. The community needs to come up with clear questions rather than vague rambling questions. I think she did a fine job, but I also think it IS the community manager’s job to filter through the discussion and ask concise questions. Gary i9-13900K, Asus RTX 4080, Asus Z790 Plus Wi-Fi, 32 GB Ram, Seasonic GX-1000W, LG C1 48” OLED 4K monitor, Quest 3 VR
October 28, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, abrams_tank said: Because they can't reproduce it. I haven't really noticed the lightning problem either when I play. I do see the lightning problem when other people live stream MSFS. Interested in where you have been flying and what weather setting you have in use. live vs pre-sets. Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
October 28, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Steku said: What, I believe, they are doing now is just continuing the original development plan. They are aware of the missing/underdeveloped components and they are focusing on them, without mentioning it too much. For example the performance optimizations. They know that a lot of code will still change, so it would be a waste of time working on the related bugs. Could not have said this better... Thanks! Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
October 28, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Steku said: Listening to MS/Asobo managers today I developed following theory: Severals months/years ago they developed a plan how to build this new sim. It took longer (it always takes longer in the gaming industry) so the executives started being afraid of the costs. So the MFS team decided to release the in-progress product, supported by effective marketing campaign. It generated a lot of revenue, so the execs were happy and allowed keeping or even expanding the team. What, I believe, they are doing now is just continuing the original development plan. They are aware of the missing/underdeveloped components and they are focusing on them, without mentioning it too much. For example the performance optimizations. They know that a lot of code will still change, so it would be a waste of time working on the related bugs. This would explain: - why the patches are so big, with very limited change logs referring mostly to the well known bugs, - why they ignore the superb input of people like CptLucky8 (the author of "tall buildings fix") regarding LOD/draw distance - they know that there are much more underdeveloped pieces which must be addressed first, - why they plan to issue so many patches - I would rather call them releases. Let's hope they know what they are doing and that they will be able too keep/expand the team and deliver the release ready version as originally planned, probably mid 2021. Weren't you surprised when they set release date in August? We were probably all excited about this, but we also felt it was to good to be true. Maybe they were forced to demonstrate that they are able to generate the revenue, so they did. It's just a theory... Spot on. Bear in mind the 'original' release install was patch after patch file to begin with! SAR Pilot. Flight Sim'ing since the beginning.
October 28, 20205 yr 39 minutes ago, pjs37 said: There is a lot of loud people. But there are choirs, all with more collective volume and togetherness on issues than loud individuals. Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
October 28, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, Fielder said: Asobo goal: going 'broader' instead of 'deeper'. Not sure what that really means. Is the need for more complete and accurate avionics from 3rd party developers depth? Or width (broadness)? Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
October 28, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, fppilot said: Interested in where you have been flying and what weather setting you have in use. live vs pre-sets. I have been flying around the Vancouver area. I often use live weather settings, but not always. I haven't really seen any lightning when I fly. But like I said, I see other live MSFS streamers who have lightning when they probably shouldn't. So it doesn't really happen to me, but I have seen it happen to other people. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
October 28, 20205 yr Madden football has sliders, artificially impose more offensive blocking-less offensive blocking. I think Asosbo needs to pull the artificial intelligence slider towards fewer lightening flashes. How hard can that be? 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
October 28, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, ChaoticBeauty said: A server-side issue regarding live weather is fixed and will be delivered with a CDN update. They also just stated that METAR data is used for airports and ground level, while Meteoblue data is used for higher altitudes. I wonder if this means we can expect to see weather at airports that more closely reflects current METARs? I still find that using live weather in the US and Canada very rarely reflects reality. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
October 28, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Steku said: Listening to MS/Asobo managers today I developed following theory: Severals months/years ago they developed a plan how to build this new sim. It took longer (it always takes longer in the gaming industry) so the executives started being afraid of the costs. So the MFS team decided to release the in-progress product, supported by effective marketing campaign. It generated a lot of revenue, so the execs were happy and allowed keeping or even expanding the team. I'm actually very happy that they released the "in-progress" version so I can fly MSFS now instead of waiting one more year for the "finished" product. To me MSFS is just great and nearly perfect, probably because I don't care that much of those big tubers let alone "study level" planes. I know that there are people who are die hard into panel simulators but for them there are always FSX/P3D/XP. They can wait while I can enjoy the MSFS as it is and ride through its breath-taking progress. Perfect. Edited October 28, 20205 yr by FlyIce 9950X3D / 64GB / RTX5090 / Pimax Crystal Light / Win11
October 28, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, fppilot said: Not sure what that really means. Is the need for more complete and accurate avionics from 3rd party developers depth? Or width (broadness)? I think it means for example Asobo is not going to spend resources to make every input on an instrument functional. But may well model other avionic systems and displays. Nothing is going to be 'study level' in MSFS except 3rd party stuff. I think with a prompt arrival of a proper SDK, then the future of MSFS 2020 will be bright. Weather engines, aircraft, scenery, deeper instrumentation will come from 3rd parties. I just hope there is enough future financial reward to keep Asobo hiring instead of folding. MS and Steam will get a share of many related addons sold (hopefully). I'm guessing Asobo's future profits relate to a FS2022, FS2024, etc. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
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