Snookered by this program .......

[AKStirling 44]

Am currently experiencing a wall of frustration trying to complete my first flight in one of the GA planes, after the take-off run it is uncontrollable,,...

before i go into a spiral down to a crash, i get a tantalizing view of the scenery i am being denied ...  ???

[pmb 5,137]

First thing I would check is the elevation trim and flaps settings. Some planes have wrong default elevation trim settings at simulator startup. I have a Saitek FIP gauge which shows elevation trim on an indicator which has a mark for the proper takeoff position, thus I can see this.

I had the very same experience as you until I detected this.

Kind regards, Michael

[Ricardo41 5,935]

36 minutes ago, AKStirling said:

Am currently experiencing a wall of frustration trying to complete my first flight in one of the GA planes, after the take-off run it is uncontrollable,,...

before i go into a spiral down to a crash, i get a tantalizing view of the scenery i am being denied ...  ???

Complete some basic flying lessons, plenty of examples on youtube. Start with the C 152.

[Moria15 950]

If the above don't work...

also ensure the flight model in settings is set to modern..  there have been a few reports of it defaulting to legacy.

Graham

[Steve Dra 7,573]

1 hour ago, Moria15 said:

If the above don't work...

also ensure the flight model in settings is set to modern..  there have been a few reports of it defaulting to legacy.

Graham

YES!!! Happened to me and was driving me BONKERS!   Now the planes .....I dunno.....fly like they should! 🙂

 

[Highmike 68]

Have a look at the sensitivity settings. The curve is very steep not far from centre in the new update. There's an option to flatten it there which might help.

[AKStirling 44]

At the risk of confirming Ricardo41's theory that i'm in need of some basic tuition, may i ask , having looked at how my controller(joystick) and the controls in the sim relate to each other, when i deflect my joystick in elevator and ailerons axes, and centre my stick, should the in game control surfaces centre too????   cos they ain't ....

[robert young 2,897]

3 hours ago, Highmike said:

Have a look at the sensitivity settings. The curve is very steep not far from centre in the new update. There's an option to flatten it there which might help.

The sensitivity curves are not easy to understand if you haven't seen their design before. Instead of one long diagonal line with the dead zone at the bottom, the dead zone is now in the middle and the lower diagonal is the controls left/down movement, while the upper diagonal is the right/up movement. The reason why some people are getting wierd behaviour is probably because they have not set the "neutral" value so the dead zone is exactly centre of the controller's central position, with equal amounts of dead zone either side.

It's not obvious that this is the way it is done since the update.

[pmb 5,137]

I got my settings pretty well now, but in all honestly, such things have to be documented by Asobo!

Kind regards, Michael

[cavaricooper 2,613]

1 hour ago, pmb said:

I got my settings pretty well now, but in all honestly, such things have to be documented by Asobo!

Kind regards, Michael

The only $100+ program I bought without a Manual (PDF or otherwise)... it's been a learning curve...

C

[AKStirling 44]

Might as well fill this space I created with something, and its my decision to bid MSFS a not so fond farewell ..... there's  a limit to the amount of frustration/stress I can carry,

and that has been reached, so its back to the balmy pastures of P3D ...OK setting up all the various add-ons to make the sim user-friendly has to be some kind of tedium,

but compared to bouncing one's head off a brick wall in what amounts to an expensive obstacle course, its a dawdle ..... many thanks to those who pitched in here with suggestions, and Robert, I made a small donation

a couple of weeks ago, as a retrospective thank you for all the pleasure generated by Realair. Have the Turbo Duke and the Lancair awaiting me back at base in P3D ..... ...... Alan

Edited November 2, 2020 by AKStirling
enough's enough!

[AKStirling 44]

Last night i installed p3d and checked the physical joysticks relationship with the in-game controls, and lo and behold, when i centered the physical joystick the in-game controls did likewise .... so in MSFS,the in-game controls not centering must go a long way to explaining the crazy behaviour i'm getting .... any ideas for a fix????

[DylanM 1,069]

Try re-calibrating the controls in the Win10 using joy.cpl and make sure there are no overlapping control / axis assignments in MSFS (it was the latter in my case that was causing issues...). 

[ludekbrno 302]

42 minutes ago, AKStirling said:

Last night i installed p3d and checked the physical joysticks relationship with the in-game controls, and lo and behold, when i centered the physical joystick the in-game controls did likewise .... so in MSFS,the in-game controls not centering must go a long way to explaining the crazy behaviour i'm getting .... any ideas for a fix????

Are you really sure, that do you have set the flight model as "modern" and NOT as "legacy"???

[AKStirling 44]

Definitely set to Modern ..............