The holiday sales are on the horizon and the incoming pandemic wave probably means lots of sim time.  Title says it all.  Any suggestions please?  Thank you.

Cities, airports or both ?

Rome

I have SamScene Rome, and Fiumicino and Ciampino from Aerosoft. But I can not really recommend these airports, since Aerosoft is no longer updating them for P3D5 unless MSFS becomes less interesting for them. But I installed in in 5.1 and it´s fine. There were some textures in the P3D45 texture folder i had to copy manually for the autogen buildings in the neighbourhood of Ciampino.

Samscene Rome gives a lot of known buildings and performance is good.

Paris

I don´t know any city scenery. I have Orly from Jetstream design and Taxi2Gate Charles De Gaulle Airport.

Didn´t have time to look at it in 5.1 so far. I used it last in 4.5.

Regards

Dan

 

For Paris there is of course Ile de France by France VFR plus accompanying City packs for the Paris Region. It's working for P3d4/5 and it's certainly the best offer available by a wide margin.

Only downside is installation if you want to marry it with ORBX as both modify the Autogen descriptions. There are several suggestions in the France VFR forum how to deal with this and it can be done.. just needs a bit of care and patience.

Alternatively there is a freeware "Paris_intra-muros", not sure if this is for Preapr3d5, though.

Kind regards, Michael

For airports, indeed Orly by Jetstream Design and Taxi2Gate Charles De Gaulle Airport are good. Anyway you don't have other choice for those airports.

 

22 hours ago, GSalden said:

Cities, airports or both ?

Both. Thanks.

9 hours ago, pmb said:

For Paris there is of course Ile de France by France VFR plus accompanying City packs for the Paris Region. It's working for P3d4/5 and it's certainly the best offer available by a wide margin.

Only downside is installation if you want to marry it with ORBX as both modify the Autogen descriptions. There are several suggestions in the France VFR forum how to deal with this and it can be done.. just needs a bit of care and patience.

Alternatively there is a freeware "Paris_intra-muros", not sure if this is for Preapr3d5, though.

Kind regards, Michael

@pmb Ile de France is on sale now.  So I'll grab that one. Does Ile de France include the city of Paris or are these two separate purchases?  Also, does Ile de France work with the latest version of P3D v4.5? 

For Europe, I only have  Orbx's the south coast of England airports and True Earth and the Orbx airports in Switzerland. I'm looking to hop from London to Switzerland to Italy (Venice and Rome). Trips I've taken multiple times in real life. I'm also interested in the French Alps. Do you have suggestions for these destinations? Thank you.

https://www.justflight.com/product/france-vfr-paris-ile-de-france-fsx-p3d-v1-v3



 

11 hours ago, blaunarwal said:

Rome

I have SamScene Rome, and Fiumicino and Ciampino from Aerosoft. But I can not really recommend these airports, since Aerosoft is no longer updating them for P3D5 unless MSFS becomes less interesting for them. But I installed in in 5.1 and it´s fine. There were some textures in the P3D45 texture folder i had to copy manually for the autogen buildings in the neighbourhood of Ciampino.

Samscene Rome gives a lot of known buildings and performance is good.

Paris

I don´t know any city scenery. I have Orly from Jetstream design and Taxi2Gate Charles De Gaulle Airport.

Didn´t have time to look at it in 5.1 so far. I used it last in 4.5.

Regards

Dan

 

@blaunarwal Samscene Rome has a file size of 52 MBs only? That sounds underwhelming. Thanks.

Taxi2gate is having a sale right now so you can get LFPG for 25% off until Dec 2nd.

I actually got it a couple of days ago

You should wait for the end of the month and I am pretty sure Jetstream designs LFPO will be on sale as well.

Edited November 14, 20205 yr by Shomron

32 minutes ago, oneleg said:

 to Switzerland

Aerosoft Geneva LSGG.

1 hour ago, oneleg said:

@pmb Ile de France is on sale now.  So I'll grab that one. Does Ile de France include the city of Paris or are these two separate purchases?  Also, does Ile de France work with the latest version of P3D v4.5? 

Ile de France gives the complete city (and a bit of surrounding), ground imagery,  region-specific autogen, a host of custom-made buildings and POIs. It does not include enhanced airports, these are in a two (or now three) bundles. 

I had it installed with 4.5 and it worked. It's a really nice scenery. (In fact all the France VFR are great.) Only resriction is it's quite performance hungry but I think your machine should digest it. (I switched shadows off which are a source of stuttering in all such sceneries where you have plenty of buildings casting shadows.)

If you go for it, check the thread(s) about co-installing it with ORBX, though, this does NOT work out of the box. I had it working but don't recally all details. In any case make a backup of your Autogen directory before installation.

Kind regards, Michael

Edited November 14, 20205 yr by pmb

1 hour ago, oneleg said:

@blaunarwal Samscene Rome has a file size of 52 MBs only? That sounds underwhelming. Thanks.

SamScene Rome consists of two parts. You buy the small part of models and autogen. Besides, you have to download a ground image ("Base Package") of 1,5 GB from their Website (I think) which is free, I guess because of license reasons.

Kind regards, Michael  

11 hours ago, Simicro said:

For airports, indeed Orly by Jetstream Design and Taxi2Gate Charles De Gaulle Airport are good. Anyway you don't have other choice for those airports.

 

I'm going to check out Jetstream Design's line-up. Thanks.

1 hour ago, pmb said:

Ile de France gives the complete city (and a bit of surrounding), ground imagery,  region-specific autogen, a host of custom-made buildings and POIs. It does not include enhanced airports, these are in a two (or now three) bundles. 

I had it installed with 4.5 and it worked. It's a really nice scenery. (In fact all the France VFR are great.) Only resriction is it's quite performance hungry but I think your machine should digest it. (I switched shadows off which are a source of stuttering in all such sceneries where you have plenty of buildings casting shadows.)

If you go for it, check the thread(s) about co-installing it with ORBX, though, this does NOT work out of the box. I had it working but don't recally all details. In any case make a backup of your Autogen directory before installation.

Kind regards, Michael

@pmb Yep, I'll go for it. It is looking like France VFR is a platform with similarities to  the Orbx  platform except that it focuses on France. There is also a separate mesh product and an obstacle and landmarks product in addition to the aforementioned airports pack. They also have something call France VFR Pilot which consists of three products.  It gets confusing when you are not familiar with France VFR's line-up.  Which one should I grab to see towns, castles and vineyards from for the trip from England to Paris to Switzerland?  I already have Orbx's global products. Where would I find Versailles in their offerings? 

I have second thoughts  in buying in to their platform if it will just duplicate scenery in MSFS which I will eventually buy.

Thank you.

43 minutes ago, oneleg said:

@pmb   It gets confusing when you are not familiar with France VFR's line-up.  Which one should I grab to see towns, castles and vineyards from for the trip from England to Paris to Switzerland? 

Yes, it's a bit confusing indeed. They have several product ranges. One (and that's the premium range) are the VFR Scenes. They are photo-based and very detailed, but also expensive if you want to buy several of them. Another product range is the integrated VFR Pilot package. It is landclass-based and contains mesh and the Obstacles et Repères packages (basically POIs). A third product range are their airports.

If you are familiar with the ORBX products, A very rough correspondence is

VFR Scenes (including Ile de France) roughly correspond to ORBX TrueEarth

France VFR TRUELandscape standalone roughly corresponds to ORBX OpenLC.

VFR Pilot (the complete package) roughly corresponds to the older FTX Regions like Germany North/South.

You will certainly see all towns in both packages. The Obstacles et Repères included in VFR Pilot should give you most of the Castles, too. Versailles is for sure included in Obstacles et Repères, but of course also in the Ile de France package.

The main difference is VFR Pilot is Landclass-based with all disadvantages this approach has, like uncoordinated Vector roads crossing through neighborhoods, if not buildings. Also, the LC-textures are repetitive and more monotone while the photo-based ground is unique as real as it gets.

On the other hand, keep in mind the photo-based VFR Scenes have eternal Summer while the landclass-based approach admits 4 or even 5 seasons. Plus, photo scenes need a lot of HD/SSD space for the Aerials. That's one reason why you only get one season.

Finally, to your decision: The VFR Pilot package does not interfere with ORBX Sceneries as it doesn't come with custom Autogen. While the VFR Scenes need special precautions when being combined with an ORBX Installation.

Kind regards, Michael