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2 hours ago, Chapstick said:

Same here. 

Testing at KBUR, I set R15 for take off and R08 for landing but when I call ATC they direct me to R26 like the ATIS is reporting. 

Ok thanks. So ATC with user does not work. Is what I imagined. Thanks


Federico Sucari

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Wow...

I need to read this whole thread 😂

PS:

So, for example, I want to do a flight between KSFO (San Francisco) and CYVR (Vancouver). My XML should look something like this?

<Parameters>
    <Airport>
    <ICAO>KSFO</ICAO>
    <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R01L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.6</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
    <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R01R</Runway>
        <Probability>0.5</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R28L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.7</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
    <ActiveLandingRunway>
        <Runway>R28R</Runway>
        <Probability>0.8</Probability>
    </ActiveLandingRunway>
    <ActiveLandingRunway>
        <Runway>R28L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.4</Probability>
    </ActiveLandingRunway>
    </Airport>
    <Airport>
    <ICAO>CYVR</ICAO>
    <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R26L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.8</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
    <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R26R</Runway>
        <Probability>0.4</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
    <ActiveLandingRunway>
        <Runway>R26R</Runway>
        <Probability>0.7</Probability>
    </ActiveLandingRunway>
    <ActiveLandingRunway>
        <Runway>R26L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.5</Probability>
    </Airport>


    <enableFastTakeOffs>1</EnableFastTakeOffs>
    <allowTakeOffDistance>6000</AllowTakeOffDistance>
    <taxiSpeedLimiter>30</TaxiSpeedLimiter>
    <runwayTaxiSpeed>60</runwayTaxiSpeed>
    <enableRollthenTakeOff>1</enableRollthenTakeOff>
    <minCrossingRny>4000</minCrossingRny>
    <isGUIVisible>1</isGUIVisible>
    <voidTimer>1000</voidTimer>
    <TaxiSeparationMultiplier>1.8</TaxiSeparationMultiplier>
</Parameters>

I have version 1.0.0.4

Excellent tool! this should be payware. Thank you all very, very much.

 

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@Juliett Alfa Check the XML

 

Parameters>
    <Airport>
    <ICAO>KSFO</ICAO>
    <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R01L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.6</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
    <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R01R</Runway>
        <Probability>0.5</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R28L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.7</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
    <ActiveLandingRunway>
        <Runway>R28R</Runway>
        <Probability>0.8</Probability>
    </ActiveLandingRunway>
    <ActiveLandingRunway>
        <Runway>R28L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.4</Probability>
    </ActiveLandingRunway>
    </Airport>
    <Airport>
    <ICAO>CYVR</ICAO>
    <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R26L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.8</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
    <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R26R</Runway>
        <Probability>0.4</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
    <ActiveLandingRunway>
        <Runway>R26R</Runway>
        <Probability>0.7</Probability>
    </ActiveLandingRunway>
    <ActiveLandingRunway>
        <Runway>R26L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.5</Probability>

</ActiveLandingRunway>
    </Airport>


    <enableFastTakeOffs>1</EnableFastTakeOffs>
    <allowTakeOffDistance>6000</AllowTakeOffDistance>
    <taxiSpeedLimiter>30</TaxiSpeedLimiter>
    <runwayTaxiSpeed>60</runwayTaxiSpeed>
    <enableRollthenTakeOff>1</enableRollthenTakeOff>
    <minCrossingRny>4000</minCrossingRny>
    <isGUIVisible>1</isGUIVisible>
    <voidTimer>1000</voidTimer>
    <TaxiSeparationMultiplier>1.8</TaxiSeparationMultiplier>
</Parameters>
 

 

there is a missing </ActiveLandingRunway> In the second airport <>

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Oh, thank you!

Why my "Active Runways" appears empty?

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If it is empty that means that something is wrong in your xml file. Just one » <«  forgotten will make the active runways empty. 
also if you use the probability feature you must have a total of 100%.

; you can’t have runway 8R landing 0,7 and 8L 0,6. It should be 0,7 0,3.

 

 

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@Juliett Alfa

In addition, have a look at the probabilities. They have to be =1 (100%) each for the landing and takeoff category. 

Try something like:

    <Airport>
    <ICAO>KSFO</ICAO>
    <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R01L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.4</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
    <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R01R</Runway>
        <Probability>0.3</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R28L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.3</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
    <ActiveLandingRunway>
        <Runway>R28R</Runway>
        <Probability>0.6</Probability>
    </ActiveLandingRunway>
    <ActiveLandingRunway>
        <Runway>R28L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.4</Probability>
    </ActiveLandingRunway>
    </Airport>
 

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Thank you all.


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How would it work if probability isn't defined? Is there a default?

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if you don’t set it, it will assign equal probabilities.

 

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Any news or updates to this project?

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3 hours ago, fclaass said:

Curious as well.  Maybe a glimpse of the features we can expect? 🙂 

Probaby this week, we are testing still the user AC that could be alignned to the ATC assignments.

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Hi Federico,

First of all, congratulations on your work making this wonderful addon, which we so wanted to have existed for a long time for P3D and which had not yet been achieved with this quality in how you are doing it.

I have been testing some airports with the latest version you published and I have noticed in this airport, MMMX, that the planes land on the opposite runways and others on the correct ones that I have specified in the "config.xml" file, which causes that in the taxis of those arriving on the 'wrong runway' invade the "runway in use" while the plane taking off on the "correct runway" end up "colliding". The take-offs are working perfect in the "runway in use".

<?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8' ?>
<Parameters>
    <Airport>
    <ICAO>MMMX</ICAO>
    <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R23R</Runway>
        <Probability>0.9</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
    <ActiveTakeOffRunway>
        <Runway>R23L</Runway>
        <Probability>0.1</Probability>
    </ActiveTakeOffRunway>
    <ActiveLandingRunway>
        <Runway>R23R</Runway>
        <ApproachName>MX450</ApproachName>
        <Probability>0.1</Probability>
    </ActiveLandingRunway>
    <ActiveLandingRunway>
        <Runway>R23L</Runway>
        <ApproachName>MX401</ApproachName>
        <ApproachType>ILS</ApproachType>
        <Probability>0.9</Probability>
    </ActiveLandingRunway>
    </Airport>
    
    <enableFastTakeOffs>1</enableFastTakeOffs>
    <allowTakeOffDistance>6000</allowTakeOffDistance>
    <taxiSpeedLimiter>30</taxiSpeedLimiter>
    <runwayTaxiSpeed>29</runwayTaxiSpeed>
    <enableRollthenTakeOff>1</enableRollthenTakeOff>
    <minCrossingRny>2000</minCrossingRny>
    <isGUIVisible>1</isGUIVisible>
    <voidTimer>1000</voidTimer>
    <TaxiSeparationMultiplier>1.8</TaxiSeparationMultiplier>
</Parameters>

What could this be? Is it a bug or did I miss adding something to the code? I appreciate the help you could provide me.

Regards.


Iván Guerrero

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Maybe try without the approaches and see if they land on the correct runways. If so, there’s something wrong with the approaches you specified

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@padrot thanks. 
can you do a simple test and take out the approaches, type and the probabilities?  (Just keep the runway designator) And see if the AIs respect the runway assignment?

If this does not work, try to see if the planes that arrive on the other side have performed a previous go around or not.

Thanks 

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