World Update II - North America

[Tuskin38 6,491]

4 hours ago, conundrum said:

Pretty sure Jayne referred to it as North America in today’s stream.

That's very odd.

[Fielder 3,671]

38:49" twitchiness on A320 & 787 lack of control response at slow speeds. They modified 5 planes and if well received will do the same for all default planes.

Edited November 21, 2020 by Fielder

[SierraHotel 981]

8 hours ago, marsman2020 said:

I am not sure.  That's just what was stated in the Dev Q&A.  Maybe they take periodic snapshots from Bing - I have no inside info but I imagine processing the imagery through the Blackshark AI to generate the buildings is resource intensive, so it might not be possible to constantly track the latest Bing.

Don't quote me, but I'm sure I read or heard that to process the entire Earth takes about 4 hours.

[Scottoest 1,561]

9 hours ago, Mike S KPDX said:

"USA update is 4 new handcrafted airports, new digital elevation terrain model (1m resolution in many cases), new aerial ortho imagery for many areas, 50 new points of interest/landmarks, and a new bush trip."

What exactly does that mean?  I understood that the ortho imagery was continually updated from Bing.

The server-side data uses Bing as a baseline, but I'm sure the MSFS and Bing teams are both trying to acquire better quality data for the simulator - whether it's Asobo getting data and feeding it upstream back to Bing, or Bing getting it and feeding it downstream into Flight Sim.

All of the new ortho and terrain data in the North America update next week, is presumably going to end up in Bing Maps too.

[yanfeng12342000 132]

16 hours ago, marsman2020 said:

USA update is 4 new handcrafted airports, new digital elevation terrain model (1m resolution in many cases), new aerial ortho imagery for many areas, 50 new points of interest/landmarks, and a new bush trip.

New airports are: Atlanta International, Friday Harbor, New York Stewart, and Dallas-Fort Worth

This was discussed in last dev Q&A (Oct 28th).

The Dev Q&A videos are very informative, I highly recommend watching them to keep up on stuff like this.

1m resolution digital elevation? This must be a dream coming true. My biggest complaint of MSFS is the low resolution mesh. I think the default mesh might be below 100m and it makes the mountains too smooth and rounded. The free HD mesh for XP11 is 30m and it looks so much better than that of MSFS. With 1m mesh resolution the mountains will look like real mountains. Can't wait!

[captain420 3,099]

Is Hawaii included in the North American update or would that be considered a part of Oceania? Hawaii really needs work.

[Colonel X 1,430]

8 hours ago, NismoRR said:

I was hoping for KLAS. KFHR is awesome as I’ve been doing a bunch of flights up there. Just started an OnAir company tonight at KORS and have an FSE flight into KFHR tomorrow.

Well there's a KLAS in dev, which also includes a city with night lighting.

Bottom line, just a couple of months, and we have a fully developed west coast - KSAN, KLAX, KBUR, KSFO, KPDX, KSEA, CYVR - KLAS the missing link.

[StoreyedTrain 13]

And what about Greenland, is that part of the continent ? (needs the most work of the entire planet)

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12 hours ago, marsman2020 said:

Maybe they take periodic snapshots from Bing - I have no inside info but I imagine processing the imagery through the Blackshark AI to generate the buildings is resource intensive, so it might not be possible to constantly track the latest Bing.

The weird thing is the japan photogrammetry update in MSFS hasn't been updated in Bing yet. Al least if I search Bing 3D cities Yokohama and Tokyo comes up empty.

[Brandon01110 407]

I hope they put the most up-to-date data in place for the little city of Wayland Michigan.  Its over 4 year old data and my house doesnt even exist yet in current MSFS.

If they don't update......no buy!!

oh, wait.......I already bought the sim.

[Drumcode 1,893]

On 11/20/2020 at 9:32 AM, StoreyedTrain said:

Should be same kind of deal as Japan.

I still did not make it to Japan post update. How good is the terrain data?

[Tuskin38 6,491]

10 hours ago, Scottoest said:

The server-side data uses Bing as a baseline, but I'm sure the MSFS and Bing teams are both trying to acquire better quality data for the simulator - whether it's Asobo getting data and feeding it upstream back to Bing, or Bing getting it and feeding it downstream into Flight Sim.

All of the new ortho and terrain data in the North America update next week, is presumably going to end up in Bing Maps too.

Yeah, even before launch there was evidence of MSFS not using all the same imagery as bing.

There was a weekly update screenshot of a park that was clearly taken at different time, with shadows at different angles, parking lot had different cars etc, when compared to what was currently on bing.

Also even outside of MSFS, I've noticed that the Microsoft Windows 10 maps app, and bing maps in browser sometimes have different imagery.

I can't think of any examples off hand, that was a few months ago.

Edited November 21, 2020 by Tuskin38

[Ferg 35]

Is that Sea Fire available for download?

[Fielder 3,671]

Maybe there will be photogrammetry in more cities. More fauna in more places.

[marsman2020 1,310]

1 hour ago, Drumcode said:

I still did not make it to Japan post update. How good is the terrain data?

In the prior Dev Q&A in September they said the USA terrain data would be even better than the new Japan data.  I think they mentioned the Japan data was 5m.