December 22, 20205 yr 16 minutes ago, SAS443 said: I would say the leap between v5.1 and 4.5 is not that significant. Especially if you run with EA off. And even with EA the cloud scapes can be very underwhelming if you use ActiveSky. The cloud popping/morphing is very prominent and spoils the immersion alot. I am not that impressed with LM at all. You can get similar visuals in 4.5 and avoid the horrendous EA colors during dusk/Dawn. This is with ultra resolution clouds 🤣 TomatoShade mops the floor with EA and you are able to control most of the parameters. I agree that clouds during dusk/dawn have to be improved. Only at early dusk/dawn they look good. At those moments non EA looks better. The cloud morphing happens at a combination of certain cloud types/light angle from the sun/cloud density. I see it 2-3x for about 30-60 seconds during a 2h flight. As EA looks better than non EA during the day I can live with it (for now..). Regarding shaders : I use EnvShade + custom tweaks so I can control many parameters in no EA mode and everything that is not cloud/sky related in EA mode. At this moment I do not miss PTA although I have made lots of monthly presets for it. As V5 has improved performance over V4 I prefer V5. Also for non EA mode. Everyone has to choose for him/herself 😄 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
December 24, 20205 yr You asked for reasons NOT to upgrade to P3Dv5. Here is my take: - High VRAM consumption when using complex scenery/add-ons due to DX12 (relevant if you have a video card with 8 GB or less). I have 6 GB VRAM, and it is more than sufficient for P3Dv4. Video cards with more than 8 GB are quite expensive right now. - The weather with EA on is still buggy, although it has been improved. I have yet to see major advantages over non-EA mode with add-ons such as ENVTEX/ENVSHADE, ASP3D. - Some add-ons that were released for P3Dv4 in the past are still not officially compatible with P3Dv5. Although they work, there can be hiccups, or they can cause crashes. Future add-ons are very likely to be developed for both P3Dv4 and v5 (such as the upcoming Concorde by FS-Labs), so staying with P3Dv4 will hardly exclude you from upcoming add-ons. - Since P3Dv4 will not be updated any more, you can count on stability and compatibility.
December 24, 20205 yr I agree with Afterburner. While dev support V4.5, there is no practical reason to move to V5 if you have a stable, full of add-ones, V4 installation. Maybe v5.5HF3 would get my attention someday. And since I have lost any faith in P3D-like development and SDK-complexity on behalf of MSFS, I'm dreaming that one day perhaps LM would bring brand new terrain and lighting engines in V6. 9950X3D, X870E ROG CROSSHAIR HERO, Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000, ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16GB, 9100 PRO 4TB Samsung ,990 PRO 4TB Samsung, AX1600i 1600 Watt 80 Plus Titanium ATX, ASUS 360 ARGB EXTREME 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling Kit.
December 24, 20205 yr 49 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said: I agree with Afterburner. While dev support V4.5, there is no practical reason to move to V5 if you have a stable, full of add-ones, V4 installation. Maybe v5.5HF3 would get my attention someday. And since I have lost any faith in P3D-like development and SDK-complexity on behalf of MSFS, I'm dreaming that one day perhaps LM would bring brand new terrain and lighting engines in V6. The practical reason in my opinion is the big performance gain. The EA i'm not sold on and will consider going back to non ea. I think compatibility is very over stated on here. I have 2 airports out of the 100 or so I had in V4 that don't work in V5. The only plane is the 777. But that is very close now. I agree with you on lighting engines for sure. p3dv5 with the lighting engine of xplane would be fantastic. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
December 24, 20205 yr Those clouds in the screenshot above would be reason not to upgrade. What is that resolution? 144p? Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
December 24, 20205 yr 10 minutes ago, Christopher Low said: Those clouds in the screenshot above would be reason not to upgrade. What is that resolution? 144p? Yeah, folks looking to upgrade shouldn't pay much attention to EA. It's a massive disappointment right now. Not just in terms of visuals, but it basically gimps ActiveSky - there's no real weather simulation happening.
December 24, 20205 yr Do the clouds actually look like that? I find it difficult to understand how that could be considered to be acceptable in 2020 Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
December 24, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, Christopher Low said: Do the clouds actually look like that? I find it difficult to understand how that could be considered to be acceptable in 2020 I mean, they can look better depending on the scenario, but yeah, the P3D team thought this was good for release.
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