3 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

 

The general assessment seems  to be the Carenado one flies fine (except for the flaps bug introduced in yesterdays patch)  and is good enough for the relatively budget price but is not really that much like an actual Arrow  whereas the JF one is far more expensive but also much more like an actual Arrow and has a lot more features.

 

I don't know whose general assessment you are referring to, but most who have actually flown an Arrow in real life, say the Carenado flies nothing like the real Arrow. I saw a video where someone did a couple of stalls in the Carenado , and I have never seen a Piper stall like that, 

1 minute ago, sd_flyer said:

Bug #2 minor rain animation!

 

I think this is a limitation of the sim. Aerosoft had the same issue with rain and the cjr

15 minutes ago, Tailwinds said:

Wait,..the flaps bug is back again the the recent Sim Update? I thought there was a Hotfix only last week to sort that out?

The Flaps bug was fixed days ago....

1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

I don't know whose general assessment you are referring to, but most who have actually flown an Arrow in real life, say the Carenado flies nothing like the real Arrow. I saw a video where someone did a couple of stalls in the Carenado , and I have never seen a Piper stall like that, 

You mean that crazy and aggressive stall to the right that someone demostrated on youtube? There's some crazy @#$$ going on on that carenado fde

1 minute ago, xender said:

I think this is a limitation of the sim. Aerosoft had the same issue with rain and the cjr

No a big deal though 🙂

I'm the only one think this guy is such show off? LOL

4 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I don't know whose general assessment you are referring to, but most who have actually flown an Arrow in real life, say the Carenado flies nothing like the real Arrow. I saw a video where someone did a couple of stalls in the Carenado , and I have never seen a Piper stall like that, 

Exactly! Carenado Arrow is nothing like real Arrow!

Just now, xender said:

You mean that crazy and aggressive stall to the right that someone demostrated on youtube? There's some crazy @#$$ going on on that carenado fde

Every PIper I have flown, when you do a stall, it just mushes without dropping a wing ( not the Tomahawk of course)  I knew a CFI years ago that told me it was so docile , that if you ever got in a cloud and were not instrument rated, you could probably survive by putting it i a stall, power off, and let it mush all the way to the ground with a pretty survivable rate of descent.  The Carenado Arrow, drops a wing, and heads downstairs like a Pitts Special doing a spin. 

4 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

The Flaps bug was fixed days ago....

So why did Glen say (post above) that the Carenado was having flap issues since the recent MSFS Update? 

Just now, Tailwinds said:

So why did Glen say (post above) that the Carenado was having flap issues since the recent MSFS Update? 

Who Knows????

1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

Every PIper I have flown, when you do a stall, it just mushes without dropping a wing ( not the Tomahawk of course)  I knew a CFI years ago that told me it was so docile , that if you ever got in a cloud and were not instrument rated, you could probably survive by putting it i a stall, power off, and let it mush all the way to the ground with a pretty survivable rate of descent.  The Carenado Arrow, drops a wing, and heads downstairs like a Pitts Special doing a spin. 

Totally agree with that assessment

This is the Carenado bug from the most recent update. I'm not sure if it's related to the previous flaps bug or not.

https://streamable.com/dlox7n

Sorry guys couldn't resist. This is my super old vid made in early 2000th. Video was shot with hand held camera before HD was a thing. Also I recorded some audio via voic recorder which was such a pain at the time

 

1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

Just got my hands on it! Well guys this is Piper! My first impression! Now! This is Arrow! This is how real things feels and flyes ! Bravo Just Flight!

although its been a while since I flew the Arrow for real,  I thought I'll skip spending $45 for now and wait for the CRJ. But your enthusiasm for this got the better of me and I just bought it. 

I don't know why I don't fly GA as much as I should. I've not flow the Seminal twin after the few days after I bought that one. Hmmmm

 

 

1 minute ago, Manny said:

although its been a while since I flew the Arrow for real,  I thought I'll skip spending $45 for now and wait for the CRJ. But your enthusiasm for this got the better of me and I just bought it. 

I don't know why I don't fly GA as much as I should. I've not flow the Seminal twin after the few days after I bought that one. Hmmmm

 

 

When get my private I thought I would never fire a sim ever again. Boy was I wrong! Then I thought I will buy an airplane and no more sim addiction! I bought  2 airplane and was wrong again. Sim was still on my PC. Then I thought well, when I become CFI I will get tired of GA planes eventually. After years of flight instructing I'm still drown to a sim! LOL Here I'm flying Arrow in sim while next week I'm planning to fly Bonanza again IRL ! LOL