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Thoughts on a 3060ti for 1440p?

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I would pair it with a 5600X. I have the CPU, now waiting for a 3060ti to drop. Does it sound feasible in 1440p? Youtube videos make it look like you get a stable 40-45 FPS average in that resolution.


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Yup 3060ti works well with a 5600x at 1440p. Probably the sweet spot for that res. The YouTube videos represent the realistic FPS well. Of course depends on the aircraft/location but I get mostly 45-50 fps doing EGLC-EGLL in a 152 with steam gauges low level along the Thames. In the TBM with a glass cockpit it drops to 35-40 fps but it's still smooth and I wouldn't notice the FPS drop unless I had the FPS counter running.

My 3060ti is a Gaming X Trio which is total overkill for that level of card. Although it is basically silent. My advice would be to get the cheapest one you can find. Pay a premium for silence though. I reckon the EVGA 3060ti XC3 hits the mark - nice and small, only needs one 8 pin power connector.

(NB I stumbled upon a 6800xt in stock in my local shop so I impulse (!) bought that a couple of weeks ago. It's only an extra 5-10 fps in pancake 1440p but the real gain for me is in VR. The 6800xt beats the 3060ti by a country mile. Only thought I'd mention that in case this post doesn't jive with my post history)

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@canadiantree, you don’t say what monitor you’re using. That is crucial because if it’s capable of running at 30Hz you’ll get a much more satisfying experience than trying to push your system to get the highest fps. As soon as the CPU or GPU hits 100% stutters will occur.

If you have your monitor set to 60Hz the system will try to achieve that and if it’s not possible that’s when the stutters start.

Have a look through your user manual and see what frequencies it can support at 2560*1440.


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On 2/2/2021 at 6:12 PM, Ray Proudfoot said:

@canadiantree, you don’t say what monitor you’re using. That is crucial because if it’s capable of running at 30Hz you’ll get a much more satisfying experience than trying to push your system to get the highest fps. As soon as the CPU or GPU hits 100% stutters will occur.

If you have your monitor set to 60Hz the system will try to achieve that and if it’s not possible that’s when the stutters start.

Have a look through your user manual and see what frequencies it can support at 2560*1440.

Hi Ray, thanks for the tip, I'm running a pretty low end monitor, I'm open to changing it but not sure what to go for at the moment, the model of my monitor is: Acer EB321HQUCbidpx

I believe it goes from 50 to 75 Hz


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@canadiantree, according to the manual here it only supports 60Hz.

According to this site the 3060Ti is very close to the 1080Ti which I run at 3840*2160 so I'm sure it will be absolutely fine at 2560*1440. https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3060-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti/4090vs3918

As regards a change of monitor certainly consider a 32" 16:9 4K one with that card. What's your budget and preferred monitor size? 4K only come in 16:9 so if you want ultra-wide you can't have a 4K.


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7 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@canadiantree, according to the manual here it only supports 60Hz.

According to this site the 3060Ti is very close to the 1080Ti which I run at 3840*2160 so I'm sure it will be absolutely fine at 2560*1440. https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3060-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti/4090vs3918

As regards a change of monitor certainly consider a 32" 16:9 4K one with that card. What's your budget and preferred monitor size? 4K only come in 16:9 so if you want ultra-wide you can't have a 4K.

Well to be honest I was looking at tvs for a while like the Samsung q80 or q90 but I use the monitor for work as well so might not be practical. So I think a 34-38 inch monitor in 4k would be awesome. Also I'm not a gamer so I don't need a high refresh rate. I'm willing to spend upwards of 500e on the screen. 


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1 hour ago, canadiantree said:

Well to be honest I was looking at tvs for a while like the Samsung q80 or q90 but I use the monitor for work as well so might not be practical. So I think a 34-38 inch monitor in 4k would be awesome. Also I'm not a gamer so I don't need a high refresh rate. I'm willing to spend upwards of 500e on the screen. 

Sadly 4K monitors don’t come larger than 32”. The smallest 4K TVs start at 40” but more generally 43”.

I can personally recommend the BenQ PD3200U which is a top quality monitor that will last you many years and supports 30Hz at 3840*2160.

https://www.benq.eu/en-uk/monitor/designer/pd3200u.html


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1440p@60Hz is a much more satisfying experience than 4k@30Hz in my opinion. Unfortunately it seems that the 3060Ti might not be enough to reach those 60fps, but 45 is also a significant improvement compared to 30. Once you experience higher frame-rates for a while, it is hard to go back, even on flight-sims.

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1 hour ago, GCBraun said:

1440p@60Hz is a much more satisfying experience than 4k@30Hz in my opinion. Unfortunately it seems that the 3060Ti might not be enough to reach those 60fps, but 45 is also a significant improvement compared to 30. Once you experience higher frame-rates for a while, it is hard to go back, even on flight-sims.

How about the 3070? What specs do you have including monitor? Thanks 


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3 hours ago, GCBraun said:

1440p@60Hz is a much more satisfying experience than 4k@30Hz in my opinion. Unfortunately it seems that the 3060Ti might not be enough to reach those 60fps, but 45 is also a significant improvement compared to 30. Once you experience higher frame-rates for a while, it is hard to go back, even on flight-sims.

I appeciate this is very subjective and for many years I was adverse to locking my system to 30fps when it was capable of higher once away from heavy airports. But at those airports the GPU usage would rise to 100% with the CPU1 core also hitting that barrier. When that happens you get stutters.

But at 30fps that results in very smooth performance at all but the heaviest airports (EGLL, KLAX etc) but that can also be allleviated by using FSUIPC to reduce Ai traffic until 30 is achievable.

I find 30 very acceptable with the only issue of mouse lag but you do adjust to that over time.

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I wouldn't get an 8GB card in 2021. Just my opinion. Also, the memory interface, no matter what the bandwidth sounds like, is 256-bit.

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I agree, the 8GB on the current generation of video cards may end up being a highly limiting factor, especially when DX12 becomes the standard API for sims and games. 


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6 hours ago, canadiantree said:

How about the 3070? What specs do you have including monitor? Thanks 

My specs are in my signature. Currently I have a 120Hz Ultra-Wide monitor which has 5120x1440 pixels. At that resolution, I get 30-60 fps on MSFS on high settings. You may be able to push it to 60 with a 3070 if you use a monitor with less horizontal pixels.


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8 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I appeciate this is very subjective and for many years I was adverse to locking my system to 30fps when it was capable of higher once away from heavy airports. But at those airports the GPU usage would rise to 100% with the CPU1 core also hitting that barrier. When that happens you get stutters.

But at 30fps that results in very smooth performance at all but the heaviest airports (EGLL, KLAX etc) but that can also be allleviated by using FSUIPC to reduce Ai traffic until 30 is achievable.

I find 30 very acceptable with the only issue of mouse lag but you do adjust to that over time.

I assume you are speaking about P3D V4.5, right? Well, with V5 I must say that I am able to reach much higher fps without significant stutters. When you get a chance, try MSFS or V5 with unlimited frame-rate (or locked at 60) and I think you will be surprised.


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