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CTD with Radeon 5700 XT, becoming more frequent

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4 hours ago, Gerwil said:

Same here, MSI RX5700XT, but only in the Reverb G2 VR. In 1080p flat screen no problems, Previously in the Rift I didn't have problems either while GPU load was also maxed. Except a restore of Windows I tried about everything, so I'm now going to do that.

Glad I didn't restore Windows. The AMD 20.9.1 WHQL driver seems a well working, stable version. My above problem seems to be gone. I immediately noticed a difference when switching between headset and desktop, the framerate would much faster settle.

More here, I didn't do the under-voltage or other tricks, just the driver 20.9.1:

https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/5700-xt-crashing-seemingly-randomly/m-p/428430#M135111

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46 minutes ago, Car147 said:

Keep in mind i have also found certain liveries ... free ware Addons, ... payware addons conflicting with each other....

In my case, it can happen with an empty Community Folder.

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RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 64Gb (4x16GB) 3600 MHz; GPU:  MSI Radeon RX 5700XT [8GB] 
SSD:  Corsair Force MP510 (for OS);  2x 1TB & 1x 2TB Sabrent Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 (one for sim, two for addons)
HDD:  Seagate 3TB (Data); Seagate 1TB (Programs), ASUS TUF Gaming VG32VQ1B Curved 31.5" monitor, 1440p, 38Mbs ethernet 

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10 hours ago, Car147 said:

But after alot of messing about i rolled back my drivers to version 20.8.03 and carried out the advice from HERE And i was down to maybe one or two every few days.

I tried this and it did NOT help, gave me CTD on first try. I would not recommend this as a majority of CPU/GPU vendors recommend using their latest RECOMMENDED drivers.

I am using latest recommended AMD driver with better success. 

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58 minutes ago, KSATRoadWarrior said:

I would not recommend this as a majority of CPU/GPU vendors recommend using their latest RECOMMENDED drivers

Of course they do, otherwise why release updates? But that doesn't mean that the latest drivers for any product are necessarily the best for every user in every situation. Unless an update provides a patch for a security issue, there can be many good reasons not to update drivers, or indeed any program. If it ain't broke...

I just completed a total flight time of over 5 hours (including both active and 'passive' pause) without any issue. Well, I did experience a crash, but that was me failing to flair properly on landing - still getting used to the Thrustmaster Airbus controls in the A320! Maybe that was just co-incidence that I didn't CTD, but that was my first flight after rolling back to 20.8.03, following the two CTDs I had earlier in the day. I might have more CTDs waiting to happen. only time will tell...

OS:     Win11 Home; Mobo: Asus TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4; CPU: Intel i5-12400 (Alder Lake) 4.4 GHz
RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 64Gb (4x16GB) 3600 MHz; GPU:  MSI Radeon RX 5700XT [8GB] 
SSD:  Corsair Force MP510 (for OS);  2x 1TB & 1x 2TB Sabrent Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 (one for sim, two for addons)
HDD:  Seagate 3TB (Data); Seagate 1TB (Programs), ASUS TUF Gaming VG32VQ1B Curved 31.5" monitor, 1440p, 38Mbs ethernet 

Fulcrum One Yoke, Honeycomb Bravo throttle, Thrustmaster Airbus TCA sidestick & throttle, Logitech Pro pedals, Xbox wireless gamepad (1st gen)

5 hours ago, 109Sqn said:

Of course they do, otherwise why release updates? But that doesn't mean that the latest drivers for any product are necessarily the best for every user in every situation. Unless an update provides a patch for a security issue, there can be many good reasons not to update drivers, or indeed any program. If it ain't broke...

I just completed a total flight time of over 5 hours (including both active and 'passive' pause) without any issue. Well, I did experience a crash, but that was me failing to flair properly on landing - still getting used to the Thrustmaster Airbus controls in the A320! Maybe that was just co-incidence that I didn't CTD, but that was my first flight after rolling back to 20.8.03, following the two CTDs I had earlier in the day. I might have more CTDs waiting to happen. only time will tell...

Exactly the issues i was experiancing until i rolled back to that earlier driver set up, and the tweak they suggested to the performance settings. Just about every flight ended in ctd.as  I tried each new version as they came out, and the only difference i got was experiancing ctd's  2-3 times a day.

The game changer so far is i have now run the latest driver released a couple of days ago, and have not had one ctd since. still flying 3-4 hrs daily.

AMD Ryzen 7 5800x3d, MSI X570 Pro, 32 gb DDR4 3600 ram, Gigabyte 6800 16gb GPU, 1x 2tb Samsung  NvMe , 1x 2tb Sabrent NvME, 1x Crucial 4tb Nvme M2 Drive

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3 hours ago, Car147 said:

The game changer so far is i have now run the latest driver released a couple of days ago, and have not had one ctd since. still flying 3-4 hrs daily.

Unfortunately, it was the Adrenalin 2020 Edition 21.1.1 Optional which I'd just installed and was continuing to result in CTDs, so I will stick with 20.8.03 for now and see how that goes. Another overnight flight just completed without failure👍🤞 If I can steer clear of CTDs, I'll probably wait until such time as AMD release another driver with an MSFS-specific tweak.

OS:     Win11 Home; Mobo: Asus TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4; CPU: Intel i5-12400 (Alder Lake) 4.4 GHz
RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 64Gb (4x16GB) 3600 MHz; GPU:  MSI Radeon RX 5700XT [8GB] 
SSD:  Corsair Force MP510 (for OS);  2x 1TB & 1x 2TB Sabrent Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 (one for sim, two for addons)
HDD:  Seagate 3TB (Data); Seagate 1TB (Programs), ASUS TUF Gaming VG32VQ1B Curved 31.5" monitor, 1440p, 38Mbs ethernet 

Fulcrum One Yoke, Honeycomb Bravo throttle, Thrustmaster Airbus TCA sidestick & throttle, Logitech Pro pedals, Xbox wireless gamepad (1st gen)

Just now, 109Sqn said:

Unfortunately, it was the Adrenalin 2020 Edition 21.1.1 Optional which I'd just installed and was continuing to result in CTDs, so I will stick with 20.8.03 for now and see how that goes. Another overnight flight just completed without failure👍🤞 If I can steer clear of CTDs, I'll probably wait until such time as AMD release another driver with an MSFS-specific tweak.

Ah, good you have got it stable now, yeah i don't blame you for leaving it as it is, i was the same for weeks.

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14 hours ago, Car147 said:

Exactly the issues i was experiancing until i rolled back to that earlier driver set up, and the tweak they suggested to the performance settings. Just about every flight ended in ctd.as  I tried each new version as they came out, and the only difference i got was experiancing ctd's  2-3 times a day.

The game changer so far is i have now run the latest driver released a couple of days ago, and have not had one ctd since. still flying 3-4 hrs daily.

You tempt me to try the newest driver... lol 

11 minutes ago, jpe828 said:

You tempt me to try the newest driver... lol 

Maybe hold off. just had a ctd on app to KIAD Vcc Runtime dll

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1 hour ago, jpe828 said:

You tempt me to try the newest driver... lol 

Since I too was having CTDs with the latest driver, I would urge caution. Be prepared to roll back.

OS:     Win11 Home; Mobo: Asus TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4; CPU: Intel i5-12400 (Alder Lake) 4.4 GHz
RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 64Gb (4x16GB) 3600 MHz; GPU:  MSI Radeon RX 5700XT [8GB] 
SSD:  Corsair Force MP510 (for OS);  2x 1TB & 1x 2TB Sabrent Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 (one for sim, two for addons)
HDD:  Seagate 3TB (Data); Seagate 1TB (Programs), ASUS TUF Gaming VG32VQ1B Curved 31.5" monitor, 1440p, 38Mbs ethernet 

Fulcrum One Yoke, Honeycomb Bravo throttle, Thrustmaster Airbus TCA sidestick & throttle, Logitech Pro pedals, Xbox wireless gamepad (1st gen)

15 hours ago, jpe828 said:

You tempt me to try the newest driver... lol 

20.9.1 is working for me, not the latest but it works. May be different for others depending on configruations.

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A successful 16 1/2 hour flight from Antarctica to Rio de Janiero with 20.8.03 and the aforementioned tewaks. Definitely sticking with this while it works.👍

OS:     Win11 Home; Mobo: Asus TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4; CPU: Intel i5-12400 (Alder Lake) 4.4 GHz
RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 64Gb (4x16GB) 3600 MHz; GPU:  MSI Radeon RX 5700XT [8GB] 
SSD:  Corsair Force MP510 (for OS);  2x 1TB & 1x 2TB Sabrent Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 (one for sim, two for addons)
HDD:  Seagate 3TB (Data); Seagate 1TB (Programs), ASUS TUF Gaming VG32VQ1B Curved 31.5" monitor, 1440p, 38Mbs ethernet 

Fulcrum One Yoke, Honeycomb Bravo throttle, Thrustmaster Airbus TCA sidestick & throttle, Logitech Pro pedals, Xbox wireless gamepad (1st gen)

56 minutes ago, 109Sqn said:

A successful 16 1/2 hour flight from Antarctica to Rio de Janiero with 20.8.03 and the aforementioned tewaks. Definitely sticking with this while it works.👍

Good news, glad its working. I had the one ctd last night on the latest driver, but at least it was'nt the normal driver timed out error. Tonights was a Vcc Runtime error, removed them, and re installed so far so good.

AMD Ryzen 7 5800x3d, MSI X570 Pro, 32 gb DDR4 3600 ram, Gigabyte 6800 16gb GPU, 1x 2tb Samsung  NvMe , 1x 2tb Sabrent NvME, 1x Crucial 4tb Nvme M2 Drive

Is this a 5700xt Specific thing ? Im on the latest driver and i haven't got any ctd's. Granted my max is three hour flights at a time but since Friday when i switched cards apart from dialing in the Overclock for the card and getting rid of the occasional stutter there has been no issues (6800xt).

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2 hours ago, Maxis said:

Is this a 5700xt Specific thing ?

Probably not, I'm also running 6800 XT. Before January I had smooth sailing, 80 hours of CTD-free flight. I didn't touch a single setting, but now for the last 4 weeks CTDs have become quite frequent (the VCCRUNTIME140.DLL combined with AMD driver crash and recovery). Roughly one CTD every flight or for every 2 hours of flying. Both with newest drivers and the recommended one 20.11.2, which I rolled back to this week. 

I have tried most of the recommended fixes but so far none have fixed it for good. The only thing in common with the CTDs that I can think of, is that I was flying over terrain I hadn't flown over before.

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