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43 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

But again, Intel aren't having major issues with supply per my earlier link

Intel should have zero credibility when it comes to supply capacity. They couldn't get their act straight before Covid.  Situation in november 2019:

https://www.techradar.com/news/intel-apologizes-for-cpu-shortages-which-remain-a-problem-amd-will-be-glad-to-hear

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Intel has apologized for the CPU shortages which have plagued would-be buyers of its processors for some time now, in a letter published via its online newsroom.

The letter, written by Michelle Johnston Holthaus, executive VP and GM of Sales, Marketing and Communications at Intel, begins: “I’d like to acknowledge and sincerely apologize for the impact recent PC CPU shipment delays are having on your business and to thank you for your continued partnership.

“I also want to update you on our actions and investments to improve supply-demand balance and support you with performance-leading Intel products. Despite our best efforts, we have not yet resolved this challenge.”

So Intel gets a free pass in a time when Covid was a non factor, but Nvidia and AMD does not when Covid is wreaking havoc in world economy? Not in my opinion. Intel is just like everybody else.

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Intel doesn't get a free pass, but you can buy their latest CPU today, no problem.

Intel CEO (Bob Swan) did resign effective Feb 15th.

Cheers, Rob.

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The world is so interconnected and interdependent nowadays, and that includes manufacturing.  A manufacturer is dependent on utilities, personnel, suppliers, transport and distribution, etc.  If one of those things falters then the whole operation can go under.

Covid has thrown a wrench into the operation of the world when you think about it.  Almost every aspect of our society has been affected.

We are so fortunate that this disease is not more lethal, like Ebola or Anthrax, because if it were we'd all be living in a dystopian, post-apocalyptic nightmare, and buying video cards would be the last thing on our minds.

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NVIDIA AD102 (Lovelace) GPU rumored to offer up to 18432 CUDA cores - VideoCardz.com

Anyone hazard a guess what these GPU`s will cost if you can get one when they release 2 grand plus maybe.    


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No clue but I'd be interested regardless of the cost if it was named after Linda Lovelace.

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More good news.

Xbox Series X to remain out of stock until at least June (guru3d.com)

Same Fab that makes AMD chips and PS5 that is also as rare as rocking horse droppings.

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    Don't forget to add bit miners. With that market going crazy, they are  grabbing every GPU  they can get their hands on .Nvidia, supposedly has admitted to selling pallet loads directly

   to them.

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19 hours ago, G-RFRY said:

GPU`s will cost if you can get one when they release 2 grand plus maybe.

3090 are selling for 2K plus ... my now ancient Titan RTX 24GB cost $2400 ... so Jensen Huang is looking to buy a new Island, so I figure $4000 to match the RTX 4000 series.  But here is the funny but not funny part ... it's likely to release BEFORE nVidia can meet demand for 3080/3090.  I guess that's one way to meet demand, obsolete the GPU.

One of my favorite comedic quotes from Blackadder goes forth ...

"If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through"

Cheers, Rob.

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13 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

 

One of my favorite comedic quotes from Blackadder goes forth ...

 

 

One of my favourite Blackaddder quotes...

"Do you know what Irony is Baldrick?"

"Yes sir, it's like goldy and silvery. "

 

 

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I really don't understand why we are singling out Nvidia/AMD and picking on an individual CEO in the middle of a Global issue...  

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55936011

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How will 'chipageddon' affect you?

There was a hint of the problem last year when gamers struggled to buy new graphics cards, Apple had to stagger the release of its iPhones, and the latest Xbox and PlayStation consoles came nowhere close to meeting demand.

Then, just before Christmas, it emerged the resurgent car industry was facing what one insider called "chipageddon".

New cars often include more than 100 microprocessors - and manufacturers were quite simply unable to source them all.

Since then, one technology company after another has warned they too face constraints.

Samsung is struggling to fulfil orders for the memory chips it makes for its own and others' products.

When Ford is shutting down F-150 lines because they can't get chips it seems we have progressed beyond a GPU issue...  GPU's are one part of a global manufacturing shortage, what does their CEO wanting an Island have to do with anything?  our CEO just did 60M worth of real estate transactions during the pandemic.  It doesn't impact our manufacturing. 

On a tangent, which has more lines of code, the 2021 F150, The Space Shuttle, the F-22 or Boeing 787?     Hint, it's the only one any of us will able be able to afford LOL!!!!   

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I'm too young but I imaging these silicon shortages being similar to various rationings and shortages from industry shifts during WW1 and WW2?

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I can't even imagine how Carol Doda would have reacted to a silicon shortage.


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On 2/12/2021 at 9:38 AM, W2DR said:

I can't even imagine how Carol Doda would have reacted to a silicon shortage.

Lol.


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On 2/1/2021 at 4:58 PM, Treetops45 said:

I recently upgraded the major components in my PC:  - MOBO, CPU & RAM.

I wanted to upgrade the GPU as well, but the one I was looking for was OOS at online suppliers, but available on Ebay, between $800 & $1,000. (Quoted OOS price was $499). $800 is beyond my current budget.

An alternative was available at a Retailer for $825, & a 4 month old review said they had 'picked it up for $200, great GPU etc etc.'

But I am not sure of the veracity of the "$200" price.

My question is, what is driving the shortages & are they likely to get better or worse in the next 6 months??

T45

Everyone is at home this year and sales of all kinds of hobby related items have been out of stock due to huge demand.  It is not a lack of production it is a surge in sales and with amd/xbox/ps5 and nvidia all having new products all about the same time they are at full capacity in making them.  tsmc makes ryzen cpus and amd's gpus, which are also what is in the xbox and ps5's.  nvidia is also using tsmc now too I think, they were using samsung for ampere to begin with I believe.  So when demand is high prices increase on the used market.  Crypto mining will probably start having an impact again too since it is on the rise again.  

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