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v1.13.16.0 - screen tearing not a bug but a design change

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10 hours ago, Axis3600 said:

And is there any use in enabling pre-packaged frames and / or triple buffering?

(I presume you mean 'pre-rendered' frames?) - see my comments earlier in the thread...

 

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/595625-v113160-screen-tearing-not-a-bug-but-a-design-change/?do=findComment&comment=4477465

 

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/595625-v113160-screen-tearing-not-a-bug-but-a-design-change/?do=findComment&comment=4477525

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On 2/17/2021 at 7:08 AM, Ianrivaldosmith said:

And this way is also much better with gsync too..... and that will also completely eliminate any tearing too.

G-Sync with or without V-sync enabled?

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On 2/18/2021 at 3:37 AM, bobcat999 said:

I can confirm, I now have the smoothest experience I have ever had in any sim. 

Would you mind posting driver version?


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38 minutes ago, CarlosF said:

Would you mind posting driver version?

461.40 - the latest.  Although there should be a newer driver due out soon. 
I saw a post that this driver is needed by MSFS for the new fast page mode, but I can't confirm it, and it didn't seem to be documented in the release notes for the driver. 
In any case, with this driver and Vsync 30 in sim, it is amazingly smooth for me.  You can definitely see that something has changed. 

Of course, they may have changed (downgraded) the graphics to give better performance in the sim as well, but it is more the smoothness than the actual frame rate that has changed for me.
I never thought I would be able to run high/ultra settings on a 4k screen at 70% scaling with an old 1080Ti.  I am quite pleased with it, and I will not rush to get a 3080 now - pointless even looking at the moment anyway.

Just to note, I don't seem to get the frame rate differences that a lot of people quote with the different drivers.  I am not sure there is much difference for an old 1080Ti with the latest drivers every month. 
The specific 1080 driver optimisations would have been done a long time ago.
Maybe if you have a newer card like a 3080 or 3090 the newer drivers get optimised over the months, but for older cards, there shouldn't be much change.

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2 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

461.40 - the latest.  Although there should be a newer driver due out soon. 
I saw a post that this driver is needed by MSFS for the new fast page mode, but I can't confirm it, and it didn't seem to be documented in the release notes for the driver. 
In any case, with this driver and Vsync 30 in sim, it is amazingly smooth for me.  You can definitely see that something has changed. 

Of course, they may have changed (downgraded) the graphics to give better performance in the sim as well, but it is more the smoothness than the actual frame rate that has changed for me.
I never thought I would be able to run high/ultra settings on a 4k screen at 70% scaling with an old 1080Ti.  I am quite pleased with it, and I will not rush to get a 3080 now - pointless even looking at the moment anyway.

Just to note, I don't seem to get the frame rate differences that a lot of people quote with the different drivers.  I am not sure there is much difference for an old 1080Ti with the latest drivers every month. 
The specific 1080 driver optimisations would have been done a long time ago.
Maybe if you have a newer card like a 3080 or 3090 the newer drivers get optimised over the months, but for older cards, there shouldn't be much change.

Thanks for the info.


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3 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

In any case, with this driver and Vsync 30 in sim, it is amazingly smooth for me

Indeed, I concur, the smoothness is there now, very happy with results, thanks for the tips.

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