March 10, 20215 yr I'm looking for ATC software that can read the flight plan you created, just like the default ATC does in MSFS and also FSX/P3D. I really want the simplicity, w/o a lot of setup pre-flight, just like the oem ATC. Does this exist? I suppose some day the oem ATC in MSFS may get better, in terms of how it functions that seems highly doable. But the pilot's voice is just so fake. I'd pay to even have P3D's ATC in MSFS! That's sad! Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
March 10, 20215 yr I think the MSFS voice sounds 10 time better than the patched together FSX/P3D voice.
March 10, 20215 yr If you use MCE, you can do the talking yourself with your microphone, or let your co-pilot handle comms if you prefer, and you can install whatever voice you like for him/her. They swear at you and slag you off if you fly badly too. It's great, works in loads of sims too; personally, I think it's the best sim add on of them all, by a very long way. Edited March 10, 20215 yr by Chock Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
March 10, 20215 yr 17 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said: I think the MSFS voice sounds 10 time better than the patched together FSX/P3D voice. Even though it's "generic, generic, generic"? My meds are all generic! I am getting to be geriatric waiting for something in the way of ATC that is at least reasonable... Not to even mention ATIS/AWOS. Edited March 10, 20215 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
March 10, 20215 yr There is pilot2atc, you can trial it. The ATC itself is excellent and it can import your simbrief flightplans and guide you correctly but the voices are still somewhat artificial (they are the ones that come with windows) although you can buy voices from 3rd parties and use those but even though being real voices, the way the sentences are strung together inevitably means it noticeable, not a pilot2atc issue admittedly as it would be impossible to have spoken sentences for every possible scenario. The biggest issue is that it's an external app that requires more setting up before starting your flight, this in addition to setting up the MCDU, setting up STKP, setting up Navigraph, setting my flight in AH2 if you use that. Getting to this point where I found myself spending more time on the pre flight than the flight but if you want ATC you may not care about that extra effort.. But that's so far been the main reason I have not bought it yet, not a pilot2atc one and maybe one day I'll bite the bullet and actually purchase it. I would definitely recommend you try it. There are some youtube tutorial videos out there as well which will give you a good idea of what it offers.
March 10, 20215 yr 3 hours ago, Noel said: I'm looking for ATC software that can read the flight plan you created, just like the default ATC does in MSFS and also FSX/P3D. I really want the simplicity, w/o a lot of setup pre-flight, just like the oem ATC. Does this exist? I suppose some day the oem ATC in MSFS may get better, in terms of how it functions that seems highly doable. But the pilot's voice is just so fake. I'd pay to even have P3D's ATC in MSFS! That's sad! Pilot2Atc is the really good one, having many features such as, import/export flight planning, speech recognition, moving map, AI traffic, etc... Edited March 10, 20215 yr by kt069 Intel i7-9700K - AMD 7900 XT (VRAM 20GB) - 32 Gb Ram - SSD Drive - Win10 x64 - Samsung 43" 4K TV - Quest 3 VR
March 10, 20215 yr Author 2 hours ago, stefaandk said: The biggest issue is that it's an external app that requires more setting up before starting your flight, this in addition to setting up the MCDU, setting up STKP, setting up Navigraph, setting my flight in AH2 if you use that. Getting to this point where I found myself spending more time on the pre flight than the flight but if you want ATC you may not care about that extra effort.. That is me also. I use FSCaptain and each flight is graded for my career, and I recently started adding arrival time to the grading criteria. This means we're getting to the gate about 20-25min prior to pushback depending on the whether, and I have to setup the flight in FSCaptain which is another 5 minutes. I use LittleNavMap and choose appropriate sids/stars and calculate my arrival in zulu time, so all told including this I'm adding another couple of minutes so now we're up to 40 minutes. I guess better ATC is just not at the top of my list right now. Hopefully Asobo will fix the biggest blunders in the current ATC and it will then have to be good enough because it takes no more time to setup. I should have mentioned this upfront but I guess I had fantasies one might just read my flight plan done in-sim and go from there like the oem ATC does. Thanks all Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
March 10, 20215 yr Going from the ingame ATC to Pilot2ATC is like a straight time travel to the 90s. It is a really horrible UI. They even managed to make night mode ugly. Using it in VR also seems like PIT. I use OVR Toolkit but interacting with the Window and it cluttered UI with my Index controllers instead of choosing option with the number buttons is basically impossible while not on the ground or using ap and even then... Of course there is voice but I cannot write anything down and that tiny window in the right left corner that I cannot make bigger isn't that much help either.
March 10, 20215 yr 4 hours ago, kakihara123 said: Going from the ingame ATC to Pilot2ATC is like a straight time travel to the 90s. It is a really horrible UI. They even managed to make night mode ugly. I agree and the voices sound terrible. I wish someone were able to "mod" the default ATC - improve the procedural handling, keep the interface and the voices. Or make something like "Chase Plane for ATC". I'd buy that in an instant.
March 10, 20215 yr PF3 integrates with MSFS 2020 perfectly. No issues, easy to learn, and over 100 controller voices instead of just 2.
March 10, 20215 yr 9 hours ago, fppilot said: Even though it's "generic, generic, generic"? My meds are all generic! I am getting to be geriatric waiting for something in the way of ATC that is at least reasonable... Not to even mention ATIS/AWOS. I meant the voice sounds better.
March 10, 20215 yr 9 hours ago, fppilot said: Even though it's "generic, generic, generic"? My meds are all generic! I am getting to be geriatric waiting for something in the way of ATC that is at least reasonable... Not to even mention ATIS/AWOS. I was talking about how the voice sounds, not what it says. Until someone releases a pack of model matching aircraft to replace the generic aircraft you’ll have to live with generic. It personally doesn’t bother me. You could probably go into the aircraft.cfg files of the generic aircraft and delete the model line so the ATC doesn’t say the word. Jorg has said we should be getting some licensed French aircraft for live traffic with world update 4. Probably airbuses. Edited March 10, 20215 yr by Tuskin38
March 10, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said: PF3 integrates with MSFS 2020 perfectly. No issues, easy to learn, and over 100 controller voices instead of just 2. That program is even worse. Is there any really good tutorial? A 192 page manual with 10 or so just for the activation. And is it really impossible to change any options on flight? Also do I really have to remember about 30 hotkeys if I don't want to use voice? Maybe I'm missing something but this was one of the worst programs I have ever used.
March 10, 20215 yr 43 minutes ago, kakihara123 said: That program is even worse. Is there any really good tutorial? A 192 page manual with 10 or so just for the activation. And is it really impossible to change any options on flight? Also do I really have to remember about 30 hotkeys if I don't want to use voice? Maybe I'm missing something but this was one of the worst programs I have ever used. Took my grandson about 20 minutes to figure it out, I only use three hotkeys regularly, that are coupled to my Joystick, and the rest can be brought up instantly in the program. Can't get any simpler. Edited March 10, 20215 yr by Bobsk8
March 10, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: Took my grandson about 20 minutes to figure it out, I only use three hotkeys regularly, that are coupled to my Joystick, and the rest can be brought up instantly in the program. Can't get any simpler. Does he use the Copilot? Because yeah... if everthing is fully automated it works for me as well. My main problem is the lack of any kind of meaningful UI. There is a hotkey option but the window simply does not appear. Well it did, a single time and that was is. No idea why it doesn't show up again.
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