Totally agree with xender and fogboundturtle. Arrow is not exactly fast cross country airplane like Bonanza or Mooney, but it can take fair amount of beating. That why Arrow used to be number one choice of training in many flight schools!

5 hours ago, lambourne said:

You can obviously read because you're using an internet forum. What part of "the details, the features, the textures... everything is new and purposefully built for the sim" don't you understand?

No wonder Avsim has a reputation of being full of aggressive blockheads when this is the kind of response we're seen to give to developers who engage with our community in good faith.

As you ask so eloquently, what I don't understand is if the textures are all brand new and purposefully built for MSFS 2020 then how come they are identical to those that came with my JF Piper Warrior made in 2017 ?

In each pic the pic within a pic are the texture .dds files or .psd files from the Paint Kit for the JF Piper Warrior II for FSX

 

 

Edited March 12, 20215 yr by Will Fly For Cheese

 

4 hours ago, booms_sys said:

- Toe brakes are not simulated

I believe I was using the toe brakes last night.   ??

9 minutes ago, Will Fly For Cheese said:

As you ask so eloquently, what I don't understand is if the textures are all brand new and purposefully built for MSFS 2020 then how come they are identical to those that came with my JF Piper Warrior made in 2017 ?

In each pic the pic within a pic are the texture .dds files for my JF Piper Warrior II for FSX

 

The textures can be brand new and still be depicting the same aircraft.

25 minutes ago, fogboundturtle said:

Isn't a slow plane great for a Flight simulator that focus on amazing scenery ? Just a thought.

That is what I found.  I have been flying high and fast for so long that I forgot how good the scenery is.  😊

Bill

If folks are seeing slightly lower performance then expected you might have iced up a bit without knowing it (since the aerodynamic effects of icing are present), try setting clear skies and bumping up the temperature so OAT is > 0C for a bit and see if it improves.

4 hours ago, FPStewy said:

Another weird question but if I get the P3D version today do we still get a discount for MSFS version ?

Yep

6 hours ago, FakeWayne said:

I've seen a few people now recommend using linear response curves for pitch and roll...easy enough to just create a new profile.  Just wondering if that is what Just Flight had in mind when tuning the flight model.

Yes, that's exactly what it needs:

Sensitivity+ 0%

Sensitivity- 0%

Dead Zone 1%

Neutral 0%

Extreme dead zone 0%

Reactivity 100%

 

The problem is, the end user can now set the curves however they want them either side of linear so it is impossible for me to set one curve that would suit everyone. Straight down the middle is what I aimed for!

 

 

1 hour ago, Mace said:

 

I believe I was using the toe brakes last night.   ??

Toe brakes work but pedals are not animated for brakes.

3 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

That is what I did

I just tried and it worked as expected. However I suspect some autopilot abnormalities  when it seemingly disengage but still fight controls. I wonder if that could be a case for you. Note: my autopilot controls are bind to honeycomb quadrant throttle and so sometimes I have to cycle autopilot on /off

4 minutes ago, remilton said:

Toe brakes work but pedals are not animated for brakes.

Great thanks.  I'll give this a whirl.

5 hours ago, fogboundturtle said:

JF told me they are working on a fix for the honeycomb user.

That's good to hear.  I don't have an experience with JF products until now.  Are they usually pretty quick with fixes like this?

14 minutes ago, Delta558 said:

Yes, that's exactly what it needs:

Sensitivity+ 0%

Sensitivity- 0%

Dead Zone 1%

Neutral 0%

Extreme dead zone 0%

Reactivity 100%

 

The problem is, the end user can now set the curves however they want them either side of linear so it is impossible for me to set one curve that would suit everyone. Straight down the middle is what I aimed for!

 

 

 

As a Commercial Member are you not supposed to put in your Signature just what your Commercial Membership involves - Company, Products, etc?

Edited March 12, 20215 yr by Will Fly For Cheese

Well apparently the cleaner textures they include weren't clean enough, someone's already made a mod: https://flightsim.to/file/9991/piper-pa28r-arrow-iii-justflight-clean-interior

 

And from the comments:

Dinowski

3 hour(s) ago

But JF provides a clean version already? How is this different?

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  Archer374

  3 hour(s) ago

  That's what I thought, but it turns out JF only provides a clean instrument panel.
  The rest of the interior (carpets, seats, side and roof panels) are extremely worn and dirty, with cuff marks, small slits, scratches and grime. I removed much of it, (hopefully) without spoiling the fact, that it still is an old plane.

Throttle wide open, gear up, flaps up, windows closed, all passengers and baggage is not loaded, 50% fuel, 122 TAS knots is all she has. I think what is old about this aircraft is the shape of the engine. 

 

Edited March 12, 20215 yr by Bobsk8