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Bought it pretty much as soon as I saw it. The pictures looked great, so I thought I'd just go for it, despite the 30$ price tag. pacSim is always mroe expensive than the others. I wouldn't pretend to know why, but at least I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with what I get. I've really liked their products of the last year or two. KSLC, KRNO, RKSI, RJOA and now KCLE, I like them all. Texturing and modeling is very nice, seemingly full interior modeling as well and very good performance! I'm pretty happy so far.

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In the past, from distance, I've ever looked at Pacsim as a 2nd or 3rd tier scenery developer specialized in exotic small destinations (islands). Last november I started to buy several sceneries from them and I have completely changed my mind. I was quite pleased with Taiwan RCTP and Philippine RPLL: good textures, nice custom coverage of areas surrounding those big airports and good fps optimization resulting in a great and fluid experience. With Cleveland, it seems that Pacsim has gone one step further. I would say they are very near to belong to the first-tier developers, especially if in the future they confirm their 'new mastering' by releasing 1 or 2 sceneries of the quality of Cleveland.

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I bought it.  Overall I'm happy with it.  But I would not say they are a first tier developer.  As good as their Cleveland is ,it is still not a fly tampa / flightbeam level scenery.  This can be noticed on things like terminal building detail and even the quality of the lighting at night.  This isn't meant to be a critique.  Because overall I'd agree with you that they have upped their game compared to some of their older sceneries.  

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Hello,

Do you think the textures pointed by red arrows are correct? In the middle there is like an old strip?

KpKZ0.jpg


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I can't speak to the texture anomalies at the ends of the runways (I suspect you have a small elevation issue), but that strip up the middle is a former taxiway that is now a vehicle access road.

 


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Thanks for your opinion and the info on the strip, Bob.


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17 hours ago, Simicro said:

Hello,

Do you think the textures pointed by red arrows are correct? In the middle there is like an old strip?

KpKZ0.jpg

Based on Google Maps, all of these things are correct.

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I looked at the historical imagery, and even back when the overruns were shortened and the decommissioned overrun ends were first painted (~early 2014), they were painted over in a dull turquoise color, certainly not fluorescent cyan.  Today they are much darker still, with just a hint of the turquoise paint remaining after 7 years of weathering.  I'm not sure if this is a PBR materials issue or just a badly made texture.  I'd definitely bring it up to Graham at Pacsim, as it really does look so starkly out of place that it's nearly impossible to look past it.

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I emailed Graham yesterday and he confirmed that is how it is in real life, hoping those are not too much of a distraction.

I told him that the teal textures are quite distracting for me.

He said he would take into consideration my pointer. 

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That's unfortunate to hear, because that dazzling fluorescent teal color is not even close.  Here's what it looks like:

https://imgur.com/X5EFCHt

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Indeed Bob, in your picture, the teal is very very light, nearly not noticeable.


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I would think the dev would want to update if they saw this picture.  

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For FSX/P3Dv4 users there are also freeware alternatives including one that we have been working on at CLEFSDevelopment. Just a little heads up!

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