1 hour ago, GSalden said:

It has been out for just 7 months is no excuse for the half finished game it currently is.

As a software engineer I actually take offense to the term "half finished" here.

This is one of the most complex and polished releases I've ever seen.  There's a reason it's winning so many top awards for PC gaming tech.

Just because people can pick apart very specific issues that apply to a small number of users (home cockpit being one) doesn't mean the simulator is "half finished".

They gave a 10 year commitment on this and people are nitpicking about everything.  The sheer complexity and technical backbone on display here is incredible.  It's a wonder it works as well as it does.

I think the Xbox integration will be great for this "title". Much like VR was/is complained about as being a time waster, it prompted me to ditch my two screen setup and fork out for a G2. 

X-Plane is available on mobile, and I am confident that the Xbox game pass will allow the "title" to be streamed via gamepass on mobile devices and tablets very soon. Sure it may not support the thousands of peripherals and plugins available on my PC, but sure would be fun to connect my "game" controller and fly around the world anywhere, anytime. 

Edited March 26, 20215 yr by OneOfMany

33 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I know some X Box gamers, and frankly, I can't see any of them devoting themselves into learning a flight sim properly. They will fly it around, see if they can find an aircraft with guns or rockets, and then look for a multiplayer session where they can shoot down other aircraft. A day or two of that, and they will move on to other games that are more fun. 

Absurd.

I'm a US certified commercial pilot, I've been through the FAA's ATC training program in OKC, I'm a certified aircraft dispatcher, I also left aviation to become a software engineer and ...

I'm an XBox gamer.

Who cares?  You are lumping people into buckets you don't understand.

I also have a powerful gaming PC that I fly flight simulators on.

For $500 you can get a device that runs MSFS at 4k in your living room, likely faster than most PCs people are using.  And you can hook up your yokes and peddles to it via USB.  I'd call that a win.

1 minute ago, Gulfstream said:

For $500 you can get a device that runs MSFS at 4k in your living room,

Not married to my wife you couldn't! 

26 minutes ago, Gulfstream said:

As a software engineer I actually take offense to the term "half finished" here.

This is one of the most complex and polished releases I've ever seen.  There's a reason it's winning so many top awards for PC gaming tech.

Just because people can pick apart very specific issues that apply to a small number of users (home cockpit being one) doesn't mean the simulator is "half finished".

They gave a 10 year commitment on this and people are nitpicking about everything.  The sheer complexity and technical backbone on display here is incredible.  It's a wonder it works as well as it does.

If you are a software engineer it should be you saying that this is :

- far from finished

- released wat too soon

- not how a ream software engineer would want it to be released 

Awards for gaming yes, not for flightsimming...

The 10 year commitment also tells me nothing, as MS is able to stop development  from one day to the other ( FSX / Flight ). I remember Phil Taylor even announced the MS decision here on Avsim. ( He is working at Google nowadays ... ).

Asobo/MS need there butt kicked and make a solid base instead of this half baked version and focus all attention on the XBox version.

Give is what you have promised...

And not in year 10...

11 minutes ago, GSalden said:

The 10 year commitment also tells me nothing, as MS is able to stop development  from one day to the other ( FSX / Flight ). I remember Phil Taylor even announced the MS decision here on Avsim. ( He is working at Google nowadays ... ).

What if tomorrow there are no enough wars to sustain LM (which I hope so), what will happen to P3D team? 

Edited March 26, 20215 yr by omarsmak30

2 minutes ago, GSalden said:

Give is what you have promised...

I got hundred times more than I could have imagined two years ago.

VR being above any other thing. VR in MSFS is the most fantastic experience I ever encountered on a PC. I fell in love with the cockpit of every single MSFS default aircraft. In VR, they are beautifully crafted. Just entering it, looking around (while not forgetting to breath) is more "simming" for me than 20 years observing 2D movies on a flat screen. You suddenly feel how cramped a cockpit tends to be.

And, VR is not only the poor man's home cockpit. It beats it in many ways. So Aosbo has built us home cockpits for less than 500 bucks.

But I understand, that not everybodies needs are addressed by this sim. It is not the fault of a product, if it does not match well with the needs of certain users.

9 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

What if tomorrow there are no enough wars to sustain LM (which I hope so), what will happen to P3D team? 

Then they will develop PGS : Plant Growth Simulator 1 .... 🍀

After close examination, we have conclusively confirmed that the horse is still dead, and need not be beaten further.  Time to move on.