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Hi all.

I need your help. I'm attempting to add Bob Kellogg's excellent HUD display to my simulator. I've had success adding this gauge, and scaling the width & length. Where I'm failing is the ability to relocate it to the position I desire. I am able to move it up and down. But for the life of me, I cannot get this gauge to move laterally to the left.

I am using a Matrox Triplehead2Go for my front (3) windows. The center is my primary, meaning it has FS9's menu etc.

I have added many other HUD gauges, readily available here, and have had zero problems scaling them and positioning them as I see fit.

But this guy will not budge to the left where I need it to go. It's already set to (0) which normally would instruct the gauge to position at the farthest left position. But it is not. It is somewhere about 40% right of the edge. I've attempted to contact the author without success.

I have added (2) images to help in illustrating the issue.

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2 hours ago, PebbleBeach said:

 [...] It's already set to (0) which normally would instruct the gauge to position at the farthest left position [...]

Hi Mitch,

have you tried to go more further to the left by using negativ numbers?  Perhaps "-10" will make it?

Good luck

Dedl

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When you comment out window_size_ratio I'd say you need both

window_size= x.xxx, x.xxx  

window_pos= x.xxx, x.xxx

Failing that you could try Dedl's negative values. Certainly works fine with xml gauges...c+ not so much. 

 

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11 hours ago, Dedl said:

Hi Mitch,

have you tried to go more further to the left by using negativ numbers?  Perhaps "-10" will make it?

Good luck

Dedl

Dedl,

Yes. The result was any negative number prevented the gauge from displaying.

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9 hours ago, edetroit said:

When you comment out window_size_ratio I'd say you need both

window_size= x.xxx, x.xxx  

window_pos= x.xxx, x.xxx

Failing that you could try Dedl's negative values. Certainly works fine with xml gauges...c+ not so much. 

 

Ed, those lines were already commented out by the author. 


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15 hours ago, PebbleBeach said:

It's already set to (0) which normally would instruct the gauge to position at the farthest left position

The window_pos parameters tell the window to start a third from the left..

Try changing  0.33 to 0.10


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Everyone,

I tried your suggestions with zero luck. Altering the Window_pos= has no effect whatsoever on moving the gauge.

In fact, regarding the entry: gauge00=gaHud29!hud2B9, 0,50,600,466 leaves very little manipulation as well. Looking at this entry, I can only adjust the height & width (600,466) entry. Changing the (0, 50) has no effect whatsoever.

Is it possible Bob Kellogg locked these settings within the XML? I've tried contacting him with no success. And unfortunately, I'm not all that good with XML coding. Nonetheless, I am adding two more files to the previous files for you and others to look at.

The first file Bob"s Instructions are Bob's instructions for placing the gauge into your panel. I have followed it to the letter to include adding the popup switch. Popup switch does work and does turn on/off the gauge etc.

The second file XML is the XML file that comes with the panel. Perhaps you, or others knowledgeable in XML coding can see if he locked the lateral & vertical manipulation of this gauge within its coding.

This has me at my wits end. I written thousands and thousands of line of code in our simulator. For the Love of God this one has me baffled.

In case it helps, here is the link to the original file: https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib...ght&fid=212128


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Ok the size of the gauge is not specified in the gauge itself. The def size is 530,440.

Open the xml gauge with notepad and add this line :      <Size x="530 Y="440"/>

to top of both gauges hud2A9 and hud2B9 just underneath the first line which says ,Gauge Name=etc etc.

Now the gauge knows what size it is you can make it any size and place it anywhere in your panel.

My panels are 4:3 ratio and the definition is 1600 x 1200

So in my panel cfg I have

[Window04]

Background_color=0,0,0

size_mm=1600,1200

visible=0

ident=304

gauge00=gaHud29!hud2B9, 100, 0, 530, 440

You can now change any of the gauge sizes/position to whatever you like.

 

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Ed,

Thank you much for your reply and suggestions. Unfortunately it had no effect. In this image HUD you can my (3) front view windows and notepad with your panel suggestions. I should mention I also added the comment in the XML file regarding size. The doggone hud, regarding of what numbers I insert, leaves the HUD stuck about just shy of 1/2 way across the screen. Nothing will change this. Again, I can size the height & width, but for whatever reason cannot get it to move to the left.

Question. Ed did you try adding this gauge yourself to a panel? If so, were you able to move it left and right? In this image HUD2 you can clearly see where I added a hud gauge from a different author and was able to move it, size it, at will like any other gauge.

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23 hours ago, PebbleBeach said:

Bert, first off, thank you. Yes I have tried this without success. 

Are you sure this is the actual gauge window?

It says visible=0 so it does not show up without you calling it..

window_pos would have an effect if this is indeed the window.

Also, can you grab the side of the window and drag it with the mouse?

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Just tried to install the gauge..

//----------- HUD2 popup  --------------------------
[Window05]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=202,168
//windowsize_ratio=1.0
visible=1
ident=304
window_pos= 0.10, 0.02

gauge00=gaHud29!hud2A9, 0,0,200,166

That moved it to the left  🙂


Bert

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42 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Just tried to install the gauge..

//----------- HUD2 popup  --------------------------
[Window05]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=202,168
//windowsize_ratio=1.0
visible=1
ident=304
window_pos= 0.10, 0.02

gauge00=gaHud29!hud2A9, 0,0,200,166

That moved it to the left  🙂

Bert, Ed, others, thank you. I truly mean it. The time all of you have exhausted on this doggone issue is truly appreciated. I mean that sincerely. 

I made some progress to day from Graeme's assistance on Flightsim's forum. I'm stilling having an issue but at least I now can move this gauge laterally. So if you want a good laugh, and still have the stamina to offer up more suggestions, then read this reply I sent to Graeme: 

>>Graeme,

I understand your "I am puzzled by your experience". I truly do. In fact, I kind of feel like an word not allowed regarding the time I've spent trying to get this to work on a 20+ year platform. But I'm telling you I've have literally tried everything.

So after reading your latest post today, with your very nicely done examples, I tried again. Reason being is because I realized, and appreciated, the time you dedicated to that response. Trying it on your system. And then responding with examples of your success. That meant a lot to me. And yes, it took a good amount of time from whatever you were doing. Thank you.

So I deleted everything related to the Gahud29. I then re-downloaded it and installed verbatim (again) as Bob Kellogg suggested. I then edited the Panel.Cfg to reflect the last two examples you posted in your latest comment. Still. NOT A word not allowed THING CHANGED! Then....... for whatever reason, I decided to move the hud Window entry in my panel file from [Window09] to [Window06] like you have. And, like Bob Kellogg had in his Readme file. Wonders wonders. Now I could move the gauge laterally. Finally. You truly cannot make this stuff up. But it happened as God is my witness. I was finally able to move the word not allowed gauge around like you illustrated. WOW. Almost makes me wonder if I have a virus or something. Whatever............

So now that I have the ability to move the gauge, I am encountering yet another issue. I have successfully moved the gauge very closely into the position I need it to be. But I cannot get it exactly. If I move the gauge a few mm to the right, where I need it to be, then the furthest right part of the gauge does not display. Its cut off. So I opened the panel file in FSpanel Studio and saw where the gauge part that was cut off in FS9 was extending past the "black" area of [Window06] the hud. So I moved it back into the black area. Saved. Reloaded in FS9. Gauge was fully visible again but left of where I needed it. So went another hour of chnaging the size of the gauge, the black area, etc. etc. without success. mad.pngmad.pngmad.pngmad.png So here is an image of my latest headache. Still want to help me?<<

Sorry everyone... apparently the word nmad backwards is not permitted on this site. Rest assure, I'm confident Tom is looking down and giggling..........

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6 hours ago, PebbleBeach said:

Ed,


Question. Ed did you try adding this gauge yourself to a panel? If so, were you able to move it left and right? 

Yes I added it to one of my panels in the way I said.  I could move it anywhere I liked with pixel perfect precision. 

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49 minutes ago, edetroit said:

Yes I added it to one of my panels in the way I said.  I could move it anywhere I liked with pixel perfect precision. 

I understand. In your situation you are adding it a one monitor setup without issue. Perhaps that's a clue. Thanks again Ed.


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