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Class Bravo clearance in a VFR flight

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Hi,

I'm reading through the VFR script that is pinned here in the forum.

However, I still have problems with arrivals in a class bravo airport, as for example KBOS. In the script it says you should file a vfr flightplan, which I do. Then I want to contact Approach to get my bravo clearance with the following call:

"Approach, [CallSign] is 30 miles [Bearing] at 5500 feet request permission to enter KBOS bravo airspace"

I still do not get what I should say as my 'bearing'. I tried South West, SW and so on. Nothing gets accepted. So I guess it's the bearing that does not get recognised. I'm using SayIt+, so it's not that the speech-to-text doesn't understand what I'm saying.

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I just use N,S,E,W and have not had a problem.   In your example I would say:

 

Approach,  November Seven Whiskey Alpha, 30 miles South at five thousand five hundred.  Request permission to enter bravo airspace.

Since I am talking to Boston Approach,  I don't specify "KBOS Airspace" because I have found you'd have to spell it out to them:   Kilo Bravo Oscar Sierra

I'm far too lazy to do that so I leave it off.   This might be the source of your problem.

 

Good luck


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41 minutes ago, snomhf said:

I just use N,S,E,W and have not had a problem.   In your example I would say:

 

Approach,  November Seven Whiskey Alpha, 30 miles South at five thousand five hundred.  Request permission to enter bravo airspace.

Since I am talking to Boston Approach,  I don't specify "KBOS Airspace" because I have found you'd have to spell it out to them:   Kilo Bravo Oscar Sierra

I'm far too lazy to do that so I leave it off.   This might be the source of your problem.

 

Good luck

Ok, thanks. I will try that out next time. And does approach issue vectors inside the bravo, or do they simply send you off to a left downwind approach, like they usually do?

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This request just grants you permission to enter the airspace.  Getting vectors from the controller depends on whether you have flight following.  If you a flying under a vfr flight plan then you automatically have FF otherwise only if you requested it.   It could be you are wanting to just fly through the airspace to get somewhere else.  I made a video that illustrates this if you are interested:

https://youtu.be/Fn2oslDoRyw

 

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On 5/19/2021 at 6:23 PM, snomhf said:

This request just grants you permission to enter the airspace.  Getting vectors from the controller depends on whether you have flight following.  If you a flying under a vfr flight plan then you automatically have FF otherwise only if you requested it.   It could be you are wanting to just fly through the airspace to get somewhere else.  I made a video that illustrates this if you are interested:

https://youtu.be/Fn2oslDoRyw

 

Thank you Mark. I'm already a subscriber to your channel but I didn't realise it was actually you who was replying. You have some great and informative videos. Congratulations.

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