Yoke Settings (I hope I don't regret asking!)

[zihmer001 67]

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I am running the Logitech Yoke.  From any real world pilots...would you have some ball park settings for GA aircraft?  I'm not looking for perfect, and I am not creating a separate profile for a 152, 172, Beech 36, and 58.  I just have no idea if the plane should barrel roll with a few degrees of deflection, or hardly move.  I don't want to kick off a firestorm that MSFS is terrible (I think it is fantastic).  As a non real world pilot, I am just looking for some guidance.  

 

Same if anyone that flies biz jets or commercial, I'd take a little feedback on setting up a yoke for the larger planes as well.  I appreciate any feedback in advance!

[Andreas Stangenes 1,628]

We are not so terrible as you might think. Im sure someone will come and help answer your questions. Unfortunately, I cannot. 

[sd_flyer 6,034]

It's an interesting question. I can tell for 152,172 and Bonanza. Common traits share by  all three: as  slower airplane get as higher control deflection required to maintain the same pitch attitude. For example stalling 172 will require yoke to deflection aft all the way to the chest. In contrast, flying instrument like manner with standard rate of turns calls for very small yoke deflection (around in inch or two in general. In fact, faster Bonanza will require even less control deflections than 172, so in a sense it's more sensitive to control input due to higher cruising speeds.

But If we talk about "big iron" with huge inertia I believe it will completely different picture! I let folks who fly them comment on it

 

Here is video on youtube I found that shows little bit control deflection in 172 just to have an idea

 

[jarmstro 2,402]

I have mine set to 50% sensitivity. Some recommend 70%. Also a 10% dead zone. To be honest I wish I hadn't cheaped out and gone for something better.

[zihmer001 67]

I appreciate the feedback.  That video was definitely useful as well as the settings currently being used.

[Ixoye 1,813]

1 hour ago, jarmstro said:

I have mine set to 50% sensitivity. Some recommend 70%. Also a 10% dead zone. To be honest I wish I hadn't cheaped out and gone for something better.

10% dead zone...why? I use 0 on my Honeycomb.

[Glenn Fitzpatrick 3,798]

The deadzone is necessary on older yokes with potentiometers as they will jitter about once the pots got flaky.

Note that "linear" settings in game are not actually linear. If you watch the "in game" yoke as you turn your real one the in game yoke moves quite slowly compared to your real one for the first part of your yoke movement and then speeds up. This is definitely not how it works in other sims like P3D .

 

I have no idea why Asobo did that.

[jarmstro 2,402]

36 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

10% dead zone...why? I use 0 on my Honeycomb.

Yeah. On your Honeycomb. I cheaped out and bought a Logitech which I bitterly regret.

[Bobsk8 12,584]

32 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Yeah. On your Honeycomb. I cheaped out and bought a Logitech which I bitterly regret.

I gave up using yokes a long time ago. Give me a good joystick with Hall ICs. Doesn't take up half the desk, create noise and jitter, and I can land on a dime...😉

[jarmstro 2,402]

8 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I gave up using yokes a long time ago. Give me a good joystick with Hall ICs. Doesn't take up half the desk, create noise and jitter, and I can land on a dime...😉

Well I'm beginning to come to that conclusion. My joystick was expensive and is far superior to my yoke.

[MarkDH 234]

19 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

...not actually linear...I have no idea why Asobo did that.

Most likely it’s because the code is inherited from FSX.

[Glenn Fitzpatrick 3,798]

19 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

I gave up using yokes a long time ago. Give me a good joystick with Hall ICs. Doesn't take up half the desk, create noise and jitter, and I can land on a dime...😉

Sounds like you may have had one of the cheaper yokes, most likely CH or Saitek. They have 45 degrees max elevator travel each way, 4" or so elevator travel and use noisy carbon pots for the control. There are too many compromises in Yokes at that level you will almost certainly be better off with a good quality joystick.

That said I did not think anything would sway me away from my Microsoft FFB2 Force Feedback stick  that has kept me in good stead for 20 years now,  but even though it is still plugged in and working perfectly, I find myself almost exclusively using my Fulcrum Yoke.  The control you get with 8" elevator travel and 90 degrees aileron each way is phenomenal.

 

Edited June 12, 2021 by Glenn Fitzpatrick

[Tierborn 188]

22 hours ago, jarmstro said:

I have mine set to 50% sensitivity. Some recommend 70%. Also a 10% dead zone. To be honest I wish I hadn't cheaped out and gone for something better.

You still can.  I can almost promise you that you can sell current yoke on ebay within 5 days.