Workingtitle CJ4 : question about APPR mode

[rka 916]

57 minutes ago, Bad_T said:

Thank you very much for your reply @rka.

Unfortunately I still can't do it properly (i guess i'm just doing it really wrong), not sure what switch you were pointing at but i tried changing to NAV mode or switching through the 'nav src' in the pfd menu but still it never catches the LOC/GS ...

In the tutorial i checked there's always a flightplan and, with that, it works fine also on my end, but when i have no flightplan it can't make it work, but yeah certainly 'user-error' a little switch somewhere, i will do some more tries.

Sorry, I think I got that mixed up with some other plane. The CRJ probably. Disregard.

 

[Bad_T 581]

oh "cool" @cwburnett 😜 🙊 .. no rush though, it's was more to make sure i was using it correctly because it's fantastic !!

😍

--- no worry @rka thanks for trying to help !

Edited June 27, 2021 by Bad_T

[Bernard Ducret 790]

I have no idea if this can be related or not to your problem, I landed at TFFF this afternoon (RWY 10, ILS 109.90 / 095°) and although I was smack on the localiser according to Aivlasoft EFB and my actual position regarding the RWY centerline (it was VFR), my two ILS gauges (TB21) were both showing that I was considerably to the left of the axis and that until touchdown. I am using the TFFF Add-on, I believe it is Tropical sim (?), not the stock MSFS scenery. The screenshot above shows a perfectly aligned LOC so I am not sure why I had such a wrong information depicted by my two ILS.

Edited June 27, 2021 by Bernard Ducret

[Bad_T 581]

 

Hello @Bernard Ducret, thanks for your input, no i don't think it's related, my problem seem to be very specific to the cj4 when no approach is loaded in the FMS and it will be checked by the cool developpers.

by default, the ILS alignment at TFFF should be fine (see pic below), it's maybe your addon causing the problem (i don't have it so i can't test), have you tried the same approach with the addon disabled ?

 

[Bernard Ducret 790]

12 hours ago, Bad_T said:

have you tried the same approach with the addon disabled ?

Not yet, but I will this afternoon. Thanks for your feedback (and the excellent AddonLinker).

[SierraHotel 976]

21 hours ago, Bad_T said:

i have a little question about APPR mode, there's probably something i do wrong, with all specialists in this forum i try to ask here before loosing too much time trying to solve/understand it by myself (very sorry if it's obvious, i did some search but couldn't really find a definitive answer).

Have you watched this video? It takes you through a full flight (2 hours of instruction)

 

[Bad_T 581]

yes @SierraHotel thank you, those videos are great and if i do like in the videos everything is fine.

This particular thread was about a little issue capturing the LOC when the approach is not loaded into the FMS, one of the developer aknowledged in one of the earlier reply that it was maybe a little bug and he will look into it. When i posted this topic, i didnt know and i was wondering if i was maybe doing something wrong, but now with that reply i guess it's probably just a litlle tiny bug that will be fixed soon.

🍻

[manageablebits 11]

2 hours ago, Bad_T said:

yes @SierraHotel thank you, those videos are great and if i do like in the videos everything is fine.

This particular thread was about a little issue capturing the LOC when the approach is not loaded into the FMS, one of the developer aknowledged in one of the earlier reply that it was maybe a little bug and he will look into it. When i posted this topic, i didnt know and i was wondering if i was maybe doing something wrong, but now with that reply i guess it's probably just a litlle tiny bug that will be fixed soon.

🍻

I think the little comment you put at the bottom of your first post should maybe have been bold in capitals at the top 🙂

[Bad_T 581]

yep you're right, i should have, but i can't edit the first post anymore 😁

[Bad_T 581]

oops 😱 sorry for digging up this old thread of mine, but was wondering if this particular issue was ever fixed or if it's still not working. Wouldn't be a problem but i'm very rusty with my flying (doing like 1 flight every 6 months) so i just keep forgetting things and i'm not very confident in my abilities.

Today i tried the CJ4 again and again i was unable to do an ILS approach (important : when the approach is NOT loaded in the FMS) because APPR mode never engaged even though all parameter look fine to me like on the pic i posted on the first post of this thread. A lot of updates have been released since my original post and so i was wondering if i'm still not doing things correctly of it was just never fixed (or if it's normal that because it should work like that).

@cwburnett seemed to aknowledge that maybe something was wrong with that, but not sure what the final conclusion was.

Not important for sure (i'll just use the FMS like everyone else), but well, i just hate when i don't understand something 😜

Thank you 🍻

[irocx 292]

On 2/12/2022 at 8:44 AM, Bad_T said:

Today i tried the CJ4 again and again i was unable to do an ILS approach (important : when the approach is NOT loaded in the FMS) because APPR mode never engaged even though all parameter look fine to me like on the pic i posted on the first post of this thread.

I tried your scenario yesterday and it hasn't been resolved.   You can capture Loc with Nav on the MCP, but you will loose it and no GS in Appr mode.  

 But, if you enter a destination airport and choose an approach in the Fmc ...AND stay in green needles, you should be able to capture loc in Nav mode,  then hit Appr and capture GS.  Hope it helps.

[PapaRomeo 40]

When I press APPR on my Honeycomb, its not actually doing anything, you have to manually press it with mouse in the sim.

My way doing it.
1:Press APPR on honeycomb.
2:Hit the Nav button
3:Press APPR in the sim with mouse on panel.

Notice the switch between FMS and LOC

[Adrian123 1,015]

Tried the scenerio just now with Manual tune Localizer. There is something wrong in the logic. Never captures lateral Localizer unless NAV and APPR is actuated. APPR should overide NAV. With NAV and APPR activated it captures lateral but, it won't capture the Vertical, GS. I have BETA su8. Never had a problem before the BETA. Tried the C208 same ILS and worked fine.

Edited February 14, 2022 by Adrian123