So I thought it was  the Xbox controller causing the issue that was also plugged in but it isn't. Reset and recalibrated the sticks not joy. For testing I also assigned a button to reset the trim to 0 during flight. Turned on the HUD on external view to see whats going on. When its at absolute 0 the aircraft goes into kamikaze mode, It needs 28-29 click of up-trim for level flight at full throttle. I could be just mad and it was always the case but I don't seem to remember this way.

1 hour ago, Bandyka said:

So I thought it was  the Xbox controller causing the issue that was also plugged in but it isn't. Reset and recalibrated the sticks not joy. For testing I also assigned a button to reset the trim to 0 during flight. Turned on the HUD on external view to see whats going on. When its at absolute 0 the aircraft goes into kamikaze mode, It needs 28-29 click of up-trim for level flight at full throttle. I could be just mad and it was always the case but I don't seem to remember this way.

Glad you figured it out, happy flying

try it with only kb and mouse with all the controllers unplugged.  also verify all autopilot is disabled.

 

curious question for you, how long in time in days or months between was the last flight that worked as expected vs when things went wonky?

Edited July 11, 20214 yr by Brandon01110

1 hour ago, Tierborn said:

Glad you figured it out, happy flying

Nope, I haven't figured it out, you misunderstood. I just proved it's not working as it used to 🙂

36 minutes ago, Brandon01110 said:

try it with only kb and mouse with all the controllers unplugged.  also verify all autopilot is disabled.

 

curious question for you, how long in time in days or months between was the last flight that worked as expected vs when things went wonky?

Yes that is the next step to do. It went wonky from one day to another. The only thing I recall changed was the latest updates but I reckon it was a couple of days after the updates were applied. Windows updates???

 

I first noticed with the PMDG DC6 went into deep dive on take off. The day before it wasn't like that.

Edited July 11, 20214 yr by Bandyka

Make sure you don't have a strange assignment on the trim or something.  Check every assigned thing in the joystick configuration.  Game loves to randomly change assignments. 

34 minutes ago, Bandyka said:

It went wonky from one day to another. The only thing I recall changed was the latest updates but I reckon it was a couple of days after the updates were applied. Windows updates???

 

I first noticed with the PMDG DC6 went into deep dive on take off. The day before it wasn't like that.

Just to clarify.  I see you said one day to another.  Does that mean for example it was fine on a thursday and then you played it friday and it was wonky?  And if that is so, was there a msfs update that was applied on friday? I dont think any windows updates would have cause this issue but not impossible.  Do you know if there were any windows updates applied on the theoretical friday I use as an example?

 

I have had similar issues with the pmdg aircraft you mention as well.  I believe you have mentioned that this issue occurs with ALL aircraft.  Have you specifically tried the C172 and the extreme node down issue occurs?

Edited July 11, 20214 yr by Brandon01110

1 hour ago, kerosene31 said:

Make sure you don't have a strange assignment on the trim or something.  Check every assigned thing in the joystick configuration.  Game loves to randomly change assignments. 

I have multiple times.

1 hour ago, Brandon01110 said:

Just to clarify.  I see you said one day to another.  Does that mean for example it was fine on a thursday and then you played it friday and it was wonky?  And if that is so, was there a msfs update that was applied on friday? I dont think any windows updates would have cause this issue but not impossible.  Do you know if there were any windows updates applied on the theoretical friday I use as an example?

 

I have had similar issues with the pmdg aircraft you mention as well.  I believe you have mentioned that this issue occurs with ALL aircraft.  Have you specifically tried the C172 and the extreme node down issue occurs?

Yes as mentioned there was an FS update, all was fine for a day or so then suddenly out of the blue the DC-6 went into deep dive, so "what da" reaction. Then purchased the Carenado 170 and same thing, just now I tried the trusted Carenado M20R and guess what, that behaves pretty much normal... GO figure.

1 hour ago, Bandyka said:

Yes as mentioned there was an FS update, all was fine for a day or so then suddenly out of the blue the DC-6 went into deep dive, so "what da" reaction. Then purchased the Carenado 170 and same thing, just now I tried the trusted Carenado M20R and guess what, that behaves pretty much normal... GO figure.

Alright I kind of have a theory about this, sort of. I have the exact same controller Thrustmaster FCS 16000m HOTAS. Most of the time, about 98% everything is fine, I mainly fly GA aircraft. But once in awhile mine does the same thing. I am using the default profiles that were set by the sim, except for a few things like flaps, gear, parking brake. Now in my case I am not sure if it is me every now and then, or the sim and controller freaking out sometimes. For one thing I did not even know this input was assigned to the trim.

And when I have my left hand on the HOTAS, my pinky finger is on that knob input that controls trim ( also the 7 and 1 key minor adjustments up and down ), and it is crazy sensitive. You barely touch it by mistake and up or down you go. I know I need to change the sensitivity. Move it VERY slowly to get out of these situations. Like I said it's either me and not knowing say when I use another button or input touching it or the controller and the sim are just freaking out sometimes. Most of the time all is well. Once in awhile, it's a run away aircraft up or down 🙂

This is just my observation on my setup using the same controller. Yours situation might be different? And also like you one aircraft will be fine another freaks out. Happens to me rarely. And sometimes I restart the sim and it works. Who knows for sure?

BTW, I absolutely love this joystick and HOTAS!

Either way I hope you figure it out. And good luck!

Edited July 11, 20214 yr by in2tech

Make sure your sim didn't spontaneously (like is did once on me and drove me batty like this) change to legacy mode from modern.