7 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

Who is this for? The folks who want an "hardcore" Airbus simulation in MSFS are probably going to wait for FSLabs to port their version over. Simmers happy with a midlevel plane are probably content with the FbW version. 

So, where is the market for this addon - unless they are planning to sell a high fidelity addon at Aerosoft prices.

FSLabs doesn't even have anything advertised to be dreaming about. And who said this won't be the most detailed airbus out there?

Edited July 12, 20214 yr by leonbr

5 minutes ago, MattNischan said:

Not sure how hardcore that is, you'll be able to do that in your G1000 NXi equipped C172 soon, too. 😉

All kidding aside, this looks pretty neat, if the claims hold up! Love to see quality stuff come to the sim. We had a similar chat on using the standard sat equations and GPS bootstrap data to realtime position how many you could see from your current location for the CJ4. Never got around to it, but it's a cool idea. Looking forward to reading more as they reveal more.

-Matt

That’s what amazes me. Even if I don’t want this specific add-on, other developers will use it as a benchmark and new features are always welcome.

14 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

Who is this for? The folks who want an "hardcore" Airbus simulation in MSFS are probably going to wait for FSLabs to port their version over. Simmers happy with a midlevel plane are probably content with the FbW version. 

So, where is the market for this addon - unless they are planning to sell a high fidelity addon at Aerosoft prices more like PMDG and FS Labs.

My guess is a lot of "Real Pilots" will use this for practice and the hardcore simmers will buy it and it will not be at Aerosoft prices.

Edited July 12, 20214 yr by jbdbow1970

3 minutes ago, ca_metal said:

That’s what amazes me. Even if I don’t want this specific add-on, other developers will use it as a benchmark and new features are always welcome.

A quality release would be another step in proving MSFS is up to the job airlinjer fans are asking of it.

First the PMDG DC-6 proved it could model a complex airliner, so the next step is to prove it can model complex airliners with modern avionics.

Edited July 12, 20214 yr by Matchstick

I know we are still to see it and for it to be reviewed by someone roughly independent who we may trust, but am I the only one that is impressed by this?

They also mention the 'family' of airframes in the text, so maybe A318 to A321, like Aerosoft did?.  Also, this is the older A320 series isn't it?  Not NG that FBW are working on.

'It is scratch-built for MSFS, based on 3D scans of 5 different A320-family airframes, for utmost accuracy.'

Edited July 12, 20214 yr by bobcat999

Well its not a neo so i guess ill pick it up "if its stable enough" on release. If its not .. ill wait it out on the sidelines. I need a trouble free installation.

Disappointed its another word not allowed A320 though.. Could have done an A330 instead. On the up side. If the claims are true regarding the systems then that should quiet the doubters regarding the "FS is only for the casuals argument".

10 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

I know we are still to see it and for it to be reviewed by someone roughly independent who we may trust, but am I the only one that is impressed by this?

They also mention the 'family' of airframes in the text, so maybe A318 to A321, like Aerosoft did?.  Also, this is the older A320 series isn't it?  Not NG that FBW are working on.

'It is scratch-built for MSFS, based on 3D scans of 5 different A320-family airframes, for utmost accuracy.'

I'm hugely impressed, that's for sure. Simulating all the systems and everything outside of the simulator like Majestic did with their Q400 is a good idea. 

They'll probably add more models when this one is 100% done and working perfectly, it would be wasteful not to use everything they've coded for an add-on A321 or A319. It would be a matter of tweaking values in the code and then the 3D modelling and texturing. 

I just watched a bit of the twitch, I will watch it fully over a cuppa later.  A British company/developer apparently.  The main developer talking was from Exeter.

I sincerely wish them all the best with this.  I will be keeping my eye on it.  There were just over 1200 people on the twitch stream so I think plenty of others will be keeping an eye on it as well.

 

 

Edited July 12, 20214 yr by bobcat999

Looks neat. But why the step backwards and simulate the CEO instead of the NEO?

11 minutes ago, ThomseN_inc said:

Looks neat. But why the step backwards and simulate the CEO instead of the NEO?

Because there isnt a CEO available as yet ?

Granted the Neo by FBW is not as "Study Level" as this release is claiming it is going to be but it is still being actively developed. Id rather a whole different model but i can make do with the CEO. No need for 3 NEO's right now. We already don't have enough diversity as it is in the Airliner market segment.

Besides.. at least with this release i can drop into an AA/DELTA/JBU A320 and not feel like an imposter flying with the wrong model type.

Edited July 12, 20214 yr by Maxis

11 minutes ago, ThomseN_inc said:

Looks neat. But why the step backwards and simulate the CEO instead of the NEO?

There's a lot more of the CEO's flying.  They would have access to a lot more data and documentation over a NEO. They also 3D scanned 3 real-world aircraft. FBW is working on the NEO so I think they did the right thing...looking forward to this one.

Edited July 12, 20214 yr by Flic1

Is this the offensive initials not allowed or SL variant? Be a shame if they at least don't do SL.

Where are all the haters that said MSFS SDK was not capable of building complex aircraft ? all I hear is cricket now. I hope this will put the silly argument to rest now.

Does it have a good working VNAV/LNAV though..(ignore the Boeing terminology here).

2 minutes ago, highflyer2020 said:

Does it have a good working VNAV/LNAV though..(ignore the Boeing terminology here).

 

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Quickly covering the autoflight – we’ve put significant effort in ensuring LNAV and VNAV are fully and faithfully represented, and that the airplane behaves exactly as you’d expect: reliably. When it comes to autoflight, showing is always better than telling, so in the coming days, I will release a video of an autoland on our Discord so you can get a first look at the automatics in action. There are even newer flight modes such as FLS (FMS Landing System) – wherein the FMGS places a point near the selected runway, and uses this to calculate and render a virtual glideslope and localiser using the aircraft’s internal navigation database, to aid in non-precision procedures.

From: https://fenixsim.com/2021/07/12/the-fenix-simulations-airbus-a320/