6 minutes ago, fogboundturtle said:

Where are all the haters that said MSFS SDK was not capable of building complex aircraft ? all I hear is cricket now. I hope this will put the silly argument to rest now.

They're running it outside the sim, so it's a moot conversation.

7 minutes ago, fogboundturtle said:

Where are all the haters that said MSFS SDK was not capable of building complex aircraft ? all I hear is cricket now. I hope this will put the silly argument to rest now.

Probably best to wait till this or the PMDG 737 actually delivers that modern complex airliner before calling the trolls in 🙂

1 minute ago, Chapstick said:

They're running it outside the sim, so it's a moot conversation.

What that means is that they are not using Asobo AP but built one using C++ or WASM modules. It's not running outside of the time per say. 

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5 minutes ago, fogboundturtle said:

Where are all the haters that said MSFS SDK was not capable of building complex aircraft ? all I hear is cricket now. I hope this will put the silly argument to rest now.

I don't know if you heard the news, but JustFlight more or less implied that they will stop making new products for P3D.  New products from JustFlight will be on MSFS instead.  JustFlight will complete any outstanding projects for P3D that have not been completed yet but that's it.

Anyways, JustFlight had this comment about the MSFS SDK which I find is hilarious:

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A lot of 'experts' on social media predicted that the P3D market would be strong for a long period because "you can't get proper planes to work in MSFS... the SDK something...something... blah blah blah...." As it turns out, they were wrong, and the switch has been fairly similar to that which took place from FS2004 to FSX. Not overnight, admittedly, but the 'years and years' was a misnomer.

 

2 minutes ago, Chapstick said:

They're running it outside the sim, so it's a moot conversation.

And of course custom external modules are never used in other sims.

I'm really impressed with what they've presented so far. 

I just wish it was a different airliner. Like the A350. 

Great new dev's with high fidelity in mind are coming aboard.  Give credit to FBW to be the first to showcase what is possible and inspire other dev teams.  However, I have a feeling we will be continuing a trend from FSX and P3D where we have 5 options for an A320 and 5 for the 737-x rather than having some different aircraft type variety.  I know the MD-11 should be coming eventually albeit for P3D first unfortunately.  Hopefully teams come up with something different other than mainstream aircraft. 

All things said and done, we are seeing aircraft well into development and projected release far earlier than what P3D produced after 2-3 years released. 

25 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

I don't know if you heard the news, but JustFlight more or less implied that they will stop making new products for P3D.  New products from JustFlight will be on MSFS instead.  JustFlight will complete any outstanding projects for P3D that have not been completed yet but that's it.

Anyways, JustFlight had this comment about the MSFS SDK which I find is hilarious:

 

Yeah, they are not making VHF Tapes anymore either. 😉

2 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

I would like to temper expectations.  Because sometimes, the community hypes things up a lot and then we are let down when the product is released.  But KatiePilot and BlackBox711 from Twitch have good things to say about this.  FYI, KatiePilot and BlackBox711 are real life A320 pilots that stream on Twitch.  In addition, KatiePilot was super disappointed by MSFS on its release when she was flying the default A320, so if KatiePilot really likes this Fenix A320 for MSFS, that could be interesting.

But anyways, let's temper our expectations.  Let it be released first and then let's judge how good it is.

I don't know why, but real pilots that actually fly airliners for a living don't seem to get too much respect on this forum,from the career simulator pilots  we have here. 

9 minutes ago, Republic3D said:

I'm really impressed with what they've presented so far. 

I just wish it was a different airliner. Like the A350. 

I sort of agree...  However I think this "classic" 320 will sell like hotcakes.

Just now, ryanbatcund said:

I sort of agree...  However I think this "classic" 320 will sell like hotcakes.

Absolutely. The people who appreciate high fidelity airliners will definitely buy it, even if it's at PMDG level prices. If it's cheaper it will sell even more. 

37 minutes ago, Chapstick said:

They're running it outside the sim, so it's a moot conversation.

So did A2A, PMDG, Majestic.  So what?

2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

So did A2A, PMDG, Majestic.  So what?

it's called moving the goalpost. Whenever you have lost an argument, in order to save face, you set a higher end goal than previously stated. It's very typical of word not allowed behavior. 

Am I hearing things or didn't they say that this project is in alpha phase?

 

15 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I don't know why, but real pilots that actually fly airliners for a living don't seem to get too much respect on this forum, from the career simulator pilots  we have here. 

I disagree, it's not hard to read (see) though the pretence. In truth, there are two different skill sets, flying a real aircraft does not equip a pilot with the skills to operate and problem solve any of the simulators under discussion, any more than being a simulator pundit equips anyone for real world flying. In fact even some of the pundits have little idea of what to do if the simulator malfunctions.

However, when it comes down to the finer nuances of how a switch click sounds, spending time setting up a flight using software or following a checklist, one might expect the flight simulator pundits' and the real world pilots' knowledge to be more evenly matched.

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