Fenix A320 Dev Update 06 Aug 2021

[Jeff Nielsen 1,386]

Just now, Chock said:

What are you even on about? I was pointing out the functional similarity between a list of commands in the MSFS ATC menu and CPDLC's datalink list.

lol...OK..I was laughing about the correlation you drew between the two.  

[Chock 17,769]

8 minutes ago, Jeff Nielsen said:

lol...OK..I was laughing about the correlation you drew between the two.  

Don't see why that would be funny, the CPDLC message screen on the real A320 - and the A220 for that matter - do the same thing as the preset responses in the ATC menu of the MSFS. Actually, some of the requests in the list in MSFS's ATC panel are word-for-word identical to those on the real thing, so from a development standpoint, it really only requires the ATC window's selectable list of responses to be able to be seen on the VC's panel screens and be clickable there, and basically you've simulated a functioning CPDLC system in your virtual airliner.

Edited August 6, 2021 by Chock

[Jeff Nielsen 1,386]

Just now, Chock said:

Don't see why that would be funny, the CPDLC message screen on the real A320 - and the A220 for that matter - do the same thing as the preset responses in the ATC menu of the MSFS. Actually, some of the requests in the list in MSFS's ATC panel are word-for-word identical to those on the real thing, so from a development standpoint, it really only requires the ATC window's selectable list of responses to be able to be seen on the VC's panel screens and be clickable there, and basically you've simulated a functioning CPDLC system in your virtual airliner.

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[Aamir 2,907]

Some images that I posted into Discord yesterday after a few too many glasses of wine... 

[Nyxx 6,993]

Stunning.

[Carts85 1,203]

They could actually pass for photos… especially the first two… Amazing work!

[Krakin 5,760]

2 hours ago, Aamir said:

Some images that I posted into Discord yesterday after a few too many glasses of wine... 

I'm pretty sure porn isn't allowed on this forum lol. Those pics are absolutely delicious!

[WestAir 2,522]

8 hours ago, Aamir said:

Some images that I posted into Discord yesterday after a few too many glasses of wine... 

My word. Look at how the labels are actually etched into the flesh of the panel; or how the serial numbers are etched on the top of certain modules. Look how the individual screws are 3d modeled, the switches have fastening holes modeled in, and we can even see the individual strands of covering inside the flap lever housing.

Aamir, I dunno what you're paying your 3d Modeler or your texture guy, but it's not enough.

[regis9 4,014]

8 hours ago, Aamir said:

Some images that I posted into Discord yesterday after a few too many glasses of wine...

If drinking wine results in us seeing screenshots like this then I’ll buy you a bottle! 🙂

[Richard Sennett 2,499]

Outstanding this level of detail has never been seen before wow

[Tuskin38 6,491]

12 minutes ago, WestAir said:

Look at how the labels are actually etched into the flesh of the panel

I think that's just real good normal mapping in good lighting.

[Richard Sennett 2,499]

4 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

I think that's just real good normal mapping in good lighting.

Absolutely mapping and an amazing job they did 

Edited August 7, 2021 by Richard Sennett

[mwilk 1,106]

Yep, that's the nasty beat up cockpit I remember from my airline days brake riding these things. They look nice when the airline first takes delivery but it doesn't take long for them to get this "used" look.

[320Driver 63]

Interesting article : https://soarbywire.com/2021/08/07/fenix-a320-a-prosim-copycat-or-coincidence/

One can only hope there is nothing behind that. Prosim 737 seems to be a very good product, but their 320 leaves A LOT to be desired. I tried a test version several times, it's partially shocking what they offer for the price in terms of flight model (feels more like a 737). AP behaviour, MCDU details, engine out behaviour, etc. 

[abrams_tank 7,411]

21 hours ago, Mike S KPDX said:

I have seen this type of comment a few times now.  But what are you talking about?? Prosim is fully developed standalone software package purchased on renewal fee basis.  Do you honestly believe that Fenix has the actual codebase, fee structure and agreements in place to use this for a one time low end purchase within MSFS??  Fenix is using separate program module that runs outside of MSFS, true... but they had to have developed this themselves.  It is not unheard of in our sim industry, FlightFactor does this same thing for Xplane.

Read this article shared by 320Driver in the post above me: https://soarbywire.com/2021/08/07/fenix-a320-a-prosim-copycat-or-coincidence/

My guess is, Fenix has made some deal with Prosim.  Perhaps Prosim gets a cut from every Fenix A320 sold.  It’s a win win for Prosim because they make more money (why would Prosim refuse Fenix?)

BTW, If Matt from Working Title is guessing Fenix is using Prosim, and Aamir didn’t deny it after reading Matt’s post, that’s as best of an educated guess than we can make since Matt knows the SDK for MSFS, and the complexity of developing a high fidelity aircraft, better than any of us. 

Edited August 7, 2021 by abrams_tank