2 hours ago, marsman2020 said:

The people who would be fixing the Premium Deluxe aircraft (which some us, myself included, paid for a year ago now) are likely to be exactly the same people working on things like the Husky and this Ju-52 - whoever the aircraft development and tuning team are at Asobo.

And beyond what any other flight sim developer has ever given us, development and fixes are continuing. WU6 will include fixes for the SR22. Perhaps not all planes are equally ‘fixed’, but I don’t recall any developer spending so much time improving the default aircraft offered with the sim.

4 hours ago, kaosfere said:

Of the things publicly known to be in the making, I think I am most eager for:

1. The ATSimulations AN2
2. The Wing42 Boeing 247 and Vega
3. The Aeroplane Heaven DC3
4. A Beaver, either from MilViz or (ahem!) @leprechaunlive (get with it! 😄 )

(Also have my eyes out for the Pilatus that Iris recently announced they'll be making and the MilViz 310.    And hopefully I'll find some more wonderful vintage surprises like the Aeroplane Heaven C140 and the Big Radials Nieuport 17.)

Ok, i'll just go now...byyyye 😄 😄 

5 hours ago, kaosfere said:

There are a lot of folks commenting here, as there always are on the internets, who do not have a grasp of how development projects of the scale of this sim -- or even, really, a fraction of its size -- are managed and run

Amen, we use git repos, trello, zoom, and all the bells and whistles, and it still is a bloody mess to manage 😄 

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1 hour ago, scotchegg said:

And beyond what any other flight sim developer has ever given us, development and fixes are continuing. WU6 will include fixes for the SR22. Perhaps not all planes are equally ‘fixed’, but I don’t recall any developer spending so much time improving the default aircraft offered with the sim.

This is beyond "improving".  Many of the Premium Deluxe aircraft were simply unfinished and not fit for purpose at release, even compared to the stock aircraft.

The sim itself is still not working properly a year after release....  But let's stick our fingers in our ears and yell about how awesome everything is.

20 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

You would have to be a total fool to even touch on that topic.

No matter whether you gave a full technical run down on exactly what went wrong blow by blow with a detailed discussion on how they intend to fix it or instead you just apologised profusely for all the grief it would just open up a huge opportunity for all the haters and detractors to vent and create a public relations nightmare.

The main reason people want some sort of comment on this is so they can jump in and rip them to shreds, hopefully they have more sense,

You see this time and time again in the 3PD developer threads.   Every single developer (even PMDG and Just Flight) will at times have issues that draw a scathing attack on the main forums about how the particular product is a scam and the poster is going back to a proper simulation such as P3D or XPlane. 

It is like dealing with a room full of petulant high school age children. The sensible devs actually sit back and keep their mouth shut. Any attempt to reply with information and a reasoned explanation of what is going on simply creates a massive flood of attacks that create much more negative publicity for their product than if they had just shut up.

TLDR - any attempt to communicate anything just creates issues, even trying to be positive.  Asobo need to grow a brain and stop communicating with the community completely and start releasing mystery updates with no prior announcements.

 

 

Simply put this is the worst way to deal with anything. Being honest does not stop people from saying what they want to say! Hiding from it does nothing good! If you cant take the heat stay out of the Kitchen. By these standards there should also be no praise for anything good then. 

Headlines: Angela fliegt zum Ruhm! (Chancellor Merkel Departs). Maybe Jörg will be the new leader!

3 hours ago, marsman2020 said:

This is beyond "improving".  Many of the Premium Deluxe aircraft were simply unfinished and not fit for purpose at release, even compared to the stock aircraft.

The sim itself is still not working properly a year after release....  But let's stick our fingers in our ears and yell about how awesome everything is.

Indeed. And until we get a stable platform that doesn’t need frequent updates that almost always break content, I see little point investing in Junkers, weird helicopters or F14s in a non combat sim.

The interview was it seems on specific subjects, "regarding World Update 6 and future DLC"  and unlike in these forums, where so many topics are hijacked by those who want to bang their own personal drum, it remained on those subjects and was all the more valuable for that.
If the interview was "Regarding issues introduced by simulator updates", you would be complaining fast enough if the talk turned to World Update 6 and future DLC.
 

 

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I think the interview is being taken totally out of context, Joerg answered the question that were asked.

If the interviewer asked things such as, what is the position on reported bugs, what are the plans to upgrade default airplanes, etc. Then perhaps some points raised on this topic would have been answered and addressed.

Until then, it is really difficult to try to take any conclusions regarding bugs and other issues using this interview as a means of measurement, simply put, they were not discussed since they were not asked.

If that upset you, blame the interviewer not the person being interviewed..

Regards,

S.

 

4 minutes ago, simbol said:

I think the interview is being taken totally out of context, Joerg answered the question that were asked.

If the interviewer asked things such as, what is the position on reported bugs, what are the plans to upgrade default airplanes, etc. Then perhaps some points raised on this topic would have been answered and addressed.

Until then, it is really difficult to try to take any conclusions regarding bugs and other issues using this interview as a means of measurement, simply put, they were not discussed since they were not asked.

If that upset you, blame the interviewer not the person being interviewed..

Regards,

S.

 

I agree with you, it sounded more like an infomercial to me than a real interview.

9 hours ago, dobee51 said:

Folks are just amped up because the update was delayed a week. Time is precious in these troubled times...

Probably the same people who’d be ranting if it had been released on 8/24 and had bugs.

”Why don’t they take more time!” would be the rant. I truly think some folks just live to be contrary. 

2 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

I agree with you, it sounded more like an infomercial to me than a real interview.

And there lies the root of the problem!

 

Aboso seem to prioritize and advertise for new sales with added features over fixing core issues that have been complained about since release!

6 minutes ago, Kilo60 said:

Aboso seem to prioritize and advertise for new sales with added features over fixing core issues that have been complained about since release!

You have to measure their performance against the competition.  Last time I checked the other competing sims still had core issues after years, if not decades, of development, and updates are few and far between.  You won’t be disappointed if you keep your expectations in check.

20 hours ago, kaosfere said:

I can assure you that the dev team are aware of the issues in the default planes, especially the premium ones, and they haven't been abandoned.

The trouble is that at minimum, the optics get unseemly when new planes are being cranked out while the old ones languish unfixed. 

I'm sure most of us completely understand that world scenery updates are done by a different team than the one that does the aircraft. I've often rebutted people who complain about the scenery updates "when ATC/aircraft/etc need fixing." 

But by the same token, it seems rational to assume that the team which does the aircraft is the team that's doing the new aircraft, which at least to the unwashed masses suggests that priority is being placed on the new upcharge aircraft rather than fixing the old upcharge aircraft. 

It gets even worse when you consider that they're getting a free pass on one of the aircraft - I doubt anyone cares if MSFS ever fixes the A320 because FBW has done/is doing such a stellar job of vastly improving it. But the Longitude? 787? They need work just for basic functionality. It's starting to get absurd that the Longitude still wiggles around like a drunk at higher altitudes. Sure, the 3rd party fix addresses that, but every time the sim gets updated, that's at risk of breaking, and we just have to hope the people doing it stay motivated to keep doing it. That's not a good situation, and it's something that Asobo really needs to address before irritating their most supportive customers (who paid double for the PD edition) by sending out new shinys and showing no signs of fixing the payware we already bought.

 

 

 

16 hours ago, kaosfere said:

For the first point, skills are not equally distributed across a dev team.  Especially when it comes to trickier issues, you may only have one or two folks on a team who are even capable of working on a particular problem, and that says nothing about their availability.  The "hero" members of dev teams, the ones who can fix almost anything, rarely have the time on a sufficiently large project to handle everything that comes their way effectively.   They're almost always a bottleneck.   Especially because people who can fill that role reliably are expensive, and to an extent it's wasteful to have more of them than you need most of the time and thus have them working on "lesser" work.

This is something I recognize very much. We have 100+ devs where I work, but it is still surprising to me how many of the more deep core questions have to pass by 2-3 people. It can be a very big roadblock indeed.