September 2, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, Kilo60 said: Hmmmmm. Fenix A320 or PMDG 737NGX… Tough decision ahead! Both of course! ASUS ROG Maximus Hero XII ▪︎ Intel i9-10900K ▪︎ NVIDIA RTX 3090 FE ▪︎ 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ▪︎ Windows 10 Pro (21H1) ▪︎ Samsung 970 EVO Pro 1TB NVME SSD (OS Drive) ▪︎ Samsung 860 EVO 2TB SATA SSD ▪︎ Seagate 4TB SATA HDD ▪︎ Corsair RMx 850W PSU
September 2, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Steve Dra said: I will never buy a product from the Marketplace if its available for sale by the vendor or 3rd party. I wonder if Jorg and team realize how much of a PITA it is to use their marketplace? They are giving up something like a 30% cut if folks buy elsewhere. I would have thought lost revenue would be a high priority for them. Maybe it is and they are working on it….who knows. Gary i9-13900K, Asus RTX 4080, Asus Z790 Plus Wi-Fi, 32 GB Ram, Seasonic GX-1000W, LG C1 48” OLED 4K monitor, Quest 3 VR
September 2, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Gilandred said: I wonder if Jorg and team realize how much of a PITA it is to use their marketplace? Its actually very easy to use, the issue is the update frequency. Some Devs have their updates for things an SU broke ready in a matter of hours in some cases. If they also sell the plane on their commerce page or simmarket, etc....you can have that fix the same day. If you bought it in the marketplace...you talking at least a week, and if the update package doesn't pass the the validation check MSFS does for MP packages, you're waiting at least another week. If a Dev makes the brilliant decision to sell their product ONLY in the MP, you could wait weeks/months for a fix (cough cough MOONEY!!) They need to have a way for Devs to directly update their MP products to ever having a chance to have me buying from it again. Edited September 2, 20214 yr by Steve Dra Regards, Steve DraGet my paints for MSFS planes at flightsim.to here, and iFly 737s hereDownload my FSX, P3D paints at Avsim by clicking here
September 3, 20214 yr Maybe third party developers should do a "validation check" with their existing products when a new software update for Microsoft Flight Simulator is released, and then throw it back at Microsoft/Asobo if it fails? Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
September 3, 20214 yr Commercial Member 16 hours ago, Steve Dra said: Its actually very easy to use, the issue is the update frequency. Some Devs have their updates for things an SU broke ready in a matter of hours in some cases. If they also sell the plane on their commerce page or simmarket, etc....you can have that fix the same day. If you bought it in the marketplace...you talking at least a week, and if the update package doesn't pass the the validation check MSFS does for MP packages, you're waiting at least another week. If a Dev makes the brilliant decision to sell their product ONLY in the MP, you could wait weeks/months for a fix (cough cough MOONEY!!) They need to have a way for Devs to directly update their MP products to ever having a chance to have me buying from it again. Amen to that! And a week to have the update to go thru, is very VERY optimistic 😄 its usually close to a month.
September 3, 20214 yr On 9/2/2021 at 8:11 AM, GoranM said: PMDG have stated in their EULA, some people are not permitted to purchase their products without written permission from PMDG. Particularly youtubers, streamers (displayed to the public) and other It’s not a case of “not being permitted to purchase”. Anyone with money in hand can buy the product. It is how the product is used once purchased and installed. The product cannot be used for a “public performance” (i.e. on YouTube or other streaming services) without written authorization from PMDG). Edited September 3, 20214 yr by JRBarrett Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
September 3, 20214 yr 21 hours ago, captain420 said: Both of course! That’s over $200.00 USD! Can you rich guys buy one for me and I’ll buy the other? Chris Camp
September 3, 20214 yr I've culled out the hijacking of this thread, which was more than half of it. A few of you keep doing this, and are approaching the point of being declared a public nuisance. Quit while you're ahead. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
September 3, 20214 yr Now we're back on topic and concerning the Fenix A320 and/or the PMDG 737NG, here's two book recommendations for you if you are wanting to steal a march on learning a 737NG or an A320CEO. Both of these are great: For the A320. For the 737NG. Edited September 3, 20214 yr by Chock Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
September 3, 20214 yr 23 hours ago, Steve Dra said: Its actually very easy to use, the issue is the update frequency. Some Devs have their updates for things an SU broke ready in a matter of hours in some cases. If they also sell the plane on their commerce page or simmarket, etc....you can have that fix the same day. If you bought it in the marketplace...you talking at least a week, and if the update package doesn't pass the the validation check MSFS does for MP packages, you're waiting at least another week. If a Dev makes the brilliant decision to sell their product ONLY in the MP, you could wait weeks/months for a fix (cough cough MOONEY!!) They need to have a way for Devs to directly update their MP products to ever having a chance to have me buying from it again. You're describing the current state of affairs, and as others have stated there are real practical reasons for keeping everything need and tidy in one location. I predict it will smooth out in the near term because of course there is nothing in it for MS if people migrate out to purchase directly from every single 3rd party content provider--a resounding no thanks to all of that had enough of it in P3D for years w/ myriad addon managers, etc etc ad nauseum. I really value the one stop shopping experience. I never need an update 'in a matter of hours' either! One week out would be completely fine, but as I say I predict they will refine the process because they benefit from this. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
September 3, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, Christopher Low said: Maybe third party developers should do a "validation check" with their existing products when a new software update for Microsoft Flight Simulator is released, and then throw it back at Microsoft/Asobo if it fails? Adobo couldn't care less what add-ons they break
September 3, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Noel said: You're describing the current state of affairs, and as others have stated there are real practical reasons for keeping everything need and tidy in one location. I predict it will smooth out in the near term because of course there is nothing in it for MS if people migrate out to purchase directly from every single 3rd party content provider--a resounding no thanks to all of that had enough of it in P3D for years w/ myriad addon managers, etc etc ad nauseum. I really value the one stop shopping experience. I never need an update 'in a matter of hours' either! One week out would be completely fine, but as I say I predict they will refine the process because they benefit from this. One week, try a month and still nothing.
September 3, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said: One week, try a month and still nothing. That's right, it's not yet there. They just need to focus attention on it, there is only so much attention in their workforce. I predict it will improve very significantly, hopefully not far down the road because otherwise it just inspires people to spread out to each developer which, I feel, is a very inelegant, inefficient solution. Each developer has to maintain the software interface and server space when they could port it over to The Marketplace and let that one entity maintain hosting for all. If nothing else it's less credit card account information and that is worth something. One username, one password, access to all new content and updates. I think messaging them to consider how loyalty to The Marketplace is at stake so they really should prioritize fixing the digital red tape as it were before habits get set in stone. The whole problem just doesn't seem that difficult to solve, it's just lack of attention on it. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
September 3, 20214 yr 20 minutes ago, Noel said: That's right, it's not yet there. They just need to focus attention on it, there is only so much attention in their workforce. I predict it will improve very significantly, hopefully not far down the road because otherwise it just inspires people to spread out to each developer which, I feel, is a very inelegant, inefficient solution. Each developer has to maintain the software interface and server space when they could port it over to The Marketplace and let that one entity maintain hosting for all. If nothing else it's less credit card account information and that is worth something. One username, one password, access to all new content and updates. I think messaging them to consider how loyalty to The Marketplace is at stake so they really should prioritize fixing the digital red tape as it were before habits get set in stone. The whole problem just doesn't seem that difficult to solve, it's just lack of attention on it. Try getting a receipt for anything you bought on Market Place that makes any sense?
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