4k 60hz to 1440p 144hz..WOW

[Dominique_K 10,133]

4 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

I have never seen any distortion on my 32" 2560x1440 curved screen.

I am unclear what people are talking about.  Does the game distort the image somehow for flatscreens due to the edges being further away from you, that somehow messes up curved screens?

Or am I confused and the distortion being discussed is related to the ultrawide 3440x1440 aspect ratio rather than anything to do with being curved  ?

I could have been clearer indeed. I am speaking of a fisheye distortion at the edges, specially in an ultrawide ratio screen but also in a curved monitor as both features seem to often come together. I have not seen any in real life so sorry if my question is a bit naive 😉.

[flyinion 280]

39 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

I could have been clearer indeed. I am speaking of a fisheye distortion at the edges, specially in an ultrawide ratio screen but also in a curved monitor as both features seem to often come together. I have not seen any in real life so sorry if my question is a bit naive 😉.

I’ve never seen any distortion from the curve on my monitor. However the ultra wide resolution does increase the fisheye look at the edges at least in external views. I saw that in regular widescreen as well though. Really wish they’d turn that off. 

[Dominique_K 10,133]

12 minutes ago, flyinion said:

I’ve never seen any distortion from the curve on my monitor. However the ultra wide resolution does increase the fisheye look at the edges at least in external views. I saw that in regular widescreen as well though. Really wish they’d turn that off. 

The outside view fisheye effect can be mostly  alleviated on a normal screen, with the graphics settings. 

But I have seen pics where the side windows were stretched on wide ratio screens. I don't know whether this can be corrected. Maybe the new generation monitors are better ?

[Bigbluss 304]

It's fantastic isn't it. When I hear people say there's no visible difference between 30fps and 80+ FPS I have to wonder how well their eyes (and reflexes) work. 144hz is so fluid and smooth, even if less than 144hz with gsync.

Edited September 12, 2021 by Bigbluss

[psolk 3,037]

42 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

The outside view fisheye effect can be mostly  alleviated on a normal screen, with the graphics settings. 

But I have seen pics where the side windows were stretched on wide ratio screens. I don't know whether this can be corrected. Maybe the new generation monitors are better ?

Ideally we would have the same capability in MSFS that I have in iracing.  I set my single ultrawide up as triples with a 16 inch curve.  I run them as three 16.3 inch monitors with a 16 inch angle in iracing and that eliminates the fisheye effect with an FOV of 96.  Both MSFWS and P3D suffer from the fisheye effect and it is quite noticeable when panning.  Anything on the corners of the screen will stretch with an ultrawide monitor very few titles support them natively.   

[Ianrivaldosmith 5,317]

28 minutes ago, Bigbluss said:

It's fantastic isn't it. When I hear people say there's no visible difference between 30fps and 80+ FPS I have to wonder how well their eyes (and reflexes) work. 144hz is so fluid and smooth, even if less than 144hz with gsync.

Yup. This. G-Sync is game changing and should be used by everyone who is lucky enough to be able to afford it, when simming. No need to lock to that dreadful 30fps. Especially now more so, with the latest msfs updates, 50-60 FPS at 4K is glorious whilst on variable refresh rate. 

[psolk 3,037]

17 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Yup. This. G-Sync is game changing and should be used by everyone who is lucky enough to be able to afford it, when simming. No need to lock to that dreadful 30fps. Especially now more so, with the latest msfs updates, 50-60 FPS at 4K is glorious whilst on variable refresh rate. 

I've been saying for years the 30fps lock was a hack that provided me with noticeable stutters.  Everyone said I was crazy but I have always run my monitors at their native refresh rate and matched FPS to refresh.  I can run my 5k at 144 4k, 120 refresh at  5k or refresh of 60 at 5k resolution.  Right now I am at a refresh rate of 60 with FPS unlocked and I run right at 50-60FPS.  NOTHING is smoother that your FPS matching your refresh though, I've been saying that for years and the mere fact in 2021 we have to LOCK a sim to 30FPS is ludicrous IMO.  I still don't understand how that's acceptable.  That is a fundamental flaw that people dismiss as acceptable and apply a 30FPS workaround then praise it...   And NO, the human eye does not only se 24 FPS so let's get them one over with right now LOL!!!  

It's not so much the refresh, it's allowing the monitor to run it's native default refresh rates and having your FPS as closely matched to refresh as possible.  I'm surprised 4k60hz wasn't smooth for you as well or did you previously lock rates at 30 with your other monitor? 

Edited September 12, 2021 by psolk

[Ianrivaldosmith 5,317]

I’ve used g-sync for years and wouldn’t use anything else for simming. The fact that it is now in LG Oled’s is also Game changing not only for PC, but also console gaming which is also adopting variable refresh rate now. 

[Bigbluss 304]

I went to the PMDG forum and asked about the upcoming performance improvements for the DC-6, and was told that the performance was perfect and that I need to lock my FPS to 30 and not expect more. Was further told I was wrong for preferring 60fps+ because msfs isn't a multiplayer FPS game. Suffice to say I logged out and don't think I'll return!

Edited September 12, 2021 by Bigbluss

[psolk 3,037]

3 minutes ago, Bigbluss said:

I went to the PMDG forum and asked about the upcoming performance improvements for the DC-6, and was told that the performance was perfect and that I need to lock my FPS to 30 and not expect more. Was further told I was wrong for preferring 60fps+ because the msfs isn't a multiplayer FPS game. Suffice to say I logged out and don't think I'll return!

PMDG said that?  Or someone on their forum said that?  Garbage either way LOL 

[Bigbluss 304]

1 minute ago, psolk said:

PMDG said that?  Or someone on their forum said that?  Garbage either way LOL 

A few of the members - I think the PMDG team are aware of the performance issues and they're due to be fixed!

I do wonder if it's perhaps they're used to the 19fps days of the NGX in FSX and so 30fps feels like a huge improvement. In their defence, prior to seeing 144hz I thought 60hz was as smooth as possible.

[Bobsk8 12,492]

I worked for years with commercial sims that used curved and even dome screens. Some used as many as 8 or more projectors to get a good image that was not distorted. The edges had to be carefully blended to achieve this. I never could see the adventure of the tiny amount of curve added to a flat panel LCD screen other than to add to it's cost. 

[Bigbluss 304]

2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I worked for years with commercial sims that used curved and even dome screens. Some used as many as 8 or more projectors to get a good image that was not distorted. The edges had to be carefully blended to achieve this. I never could see the adventure of the tiny amount of curve added to a flat panel LCD screen other than to add to it's cost. 

It's much more immersive - I replaced a flat screen ultrawide with a curved one and the difference is night and day. Looking at the flat one looks pretty awful in comparison.

[iFlySimX 748]

Went from 4k to 1440p and it is amazing! Honestly at 1440p everything looks really crisp. 

[Dominique_K 10,133]

Not a real sim if you don't have to downgrade your 1,500 buck monitor fed by a 1,500 bucks card to 30 Hz 😈.

Some "experts" have convinced many to accept this weird tweaking as a standard to make P3D palatable. Time to get back to normality. 

An interesting thread.